So it looks like there's an updated Google App Engine roadmap and guess what...no mention of full-text search.
Doesn't that strike anyone as a bit odd? How can an emerging cloud computing platform not effectively address full-text search? And what's really odd is the absolute silence from Google...quite frankly, I don't get it. On Jul 16, 12:28 pm, Bryan <[email protected]> wrote: > This is a very interesting discussion. I would like to see some input > from Google. > > On Jul 15, 10:20 am, richard emberson <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > I understand that BigTable is behind GAE, but my concern is > > more with GAE performance and quotas. If GAE had existed > > when Larry and Sergey were developing their pagerack > > algorithm, would they have used GEA for evaluation? > > I have my doubts. They would quickly reach quota limits, > > way before they knew if they had a viable idea. > > > Richard > > > Tony wrote: > > > Though I realize this is not exactly what you're asking, the concept > > > of GAE is that it exposes some of the infrastructure that all Google > > > applications rely on (i.e. Datastore) for others to use. So, in a > > > sense, Google's various applications were using App Engine before App > > > Engine existed. As far as I know, every Google service runs on the > > > same homogeneous infrastructure, which is part of what makes it so > > > reliable (and why the only available languages are Python and Java, > > > languages used internally at Google). > > > > But I don't work there, so maybe I'm completely off-base. > > > > On Jul 15, 12:53 pm, richard emberson <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > >> Eating one's own dog > > >> foodhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_one's_own_dog_food > > >> or in this case: > > >> Using one's own cloud. > > > >> Amazon' cloud is based upon the IT technology they use > > >> within Amazon. > > >> Salesforce.com's Force.com offering is what they used to > > >> build their CRM system. > > > >> These cloud vendors "Eat their own dog food". > > > >> If a cloud vendor does not use their cloud offering for > > >> their other products and/or internal systems, one > > >> would have to assume that the cloud is viewed as > > >> a technology ghetto within their own corporation - good > > >> enough for others but not for ourselves. > > > >> So, concerning the Google App Engine, are other groups > > >> within Google clamoring to port or build their offerings > > >> on top of the App Engine? If so, please be specific, what > > >> Google products and infrastructure and what are the schedules > > >> for their hosting on GAE? > > > >> Is the GAE group supporting the Google Docs group as they > > >> move to use GAE? How about gmail, will the Google Gmail > > >> group be relying on GAE support? I have not seen emails > > >> from either of those internal Google groups on the GAE > > >> mailing list. Lastly, when will Google search be supported > > >> by the GAE group; > > > >> Will those groups have to live under the same quota restrictions > > >> while they evaluate using GAE? If not, why not? If they > > >> are unreasonable for an internal evaluation, what makes them > > >> reasonable for an external evaluation? > > > >> Evaluating whether or not GAE should be used for a particular > > >> application is not FREE even if one gets a very small slice > > >> of GAE resources with which to do the evaluation. > > >> Tens or hundreds of hours go into determine if GAE has > > >> the right characteristics and quotas that limit how fast one > > >> can work makes it worse. (Yes one can $$ for higher quotas, > > >> but during the evaluation phase $$ is out of the question.) > > > >> Richard Emberson > > > >> -- > > >> Quis custodiet ipsos custodes > > > -- > > Quis custodiet ipsos custodes --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
