I am not a lawyer, and I don't work for Google, so I'm not saying your concerns are illegitimate, but that clause seems like legal boilerplate to me - as serving your content could conceivably be interpreted as publishing, translating, performing, displaying, distributing, etc. by the morass of global intellectual property laws, they're covering all their bases.
Again, I'm not a lawyer, but I interpret it as "in order for us to provide you this service, we require these rights" and I expect that I can terminate this agreement at any time by ceasing use of the service. However, you make a good point - what if an App Engine app becomes the next Facebook/Myspace/Twitter? Could Google use these terms nefariously? Probably, and so maybe some clarification would be helpful, but I don't think there's much cause for alarm. On Aug 6, 10:33 am, Tudor Constantin <[email protected]> wrote: > Tony, if that would be so, they would ask the right to > EXECUTE/INTERPRET or something similar your code, not to " give Google > a worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive > license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, PUBLISH, publicly > perform, publicly DISPLAY and distribute such Content for the sole > purpose of enabling Google to provide you with the Service in > accordance with its privacy policy." > > 'the sole purpose of enabling Google to provide you with the Service' > could be interpreted like some sort of a deal: "you want our service, > you give us access and rights over your code" > > What about the people who are paying for the service? they are not > allowed to keep their software proprietary either? > > Would that clause be valid if, for example, you have a very successful > site/application that could raise the interest of google to buy it and > you don't want to sell at their price? This clause is so more > "interesting" because, probably 95% of the people who develop > applications for GAE think and hope those will need to be very > scalable - so, very successful - and between learning all the things > related to scalability in their native language they rather > Python/Java and program under some restrictions. > > So, is it possible that we want our applications to be so successful > to force google to bring that clause into discussion? > > > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 5:00 PM, Tony<[email protected]> wrote: > > > I think the key here is: "...for the sole purpose of enabling Google > > to provide > > you with the Service in accordance with its privacy policy." > > > In other words, Google may reproduce/distribute your content > > throughout its network as necessary to provide you with the App Engine > > Service. If they did not have this right, there would be no way for > > your users to access your data, as it is all stored on servers that > > you do not own. > > > On Aug 5, 3:53 am, webpaage <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I am quite positive about using the App Engine to roll out our new > >> project except that I wonder someone from Google can explain what the > >> following clauses in the T&C actually mean? : > > >> "Google reserves the right (but shall have no obligation) to pre- > >> screen, review, flag, filter, modify, refuse or remove any or all > >> Content from the Service"... > > >> and > > >> "By submitting, posting or displaying the Content on or through the > >> Service you give Google a worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive > >> license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly > >> perform, publicly display and distribute such Content for the sole > >> purpose of enabling Google to provide you with the Service in > >> accordance with its privacy policy. Furthermore, by creating an > >> Application through use of the Service, you give Google a worldwide, > >> royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, > >> translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute > >> such Application for the sole purpose of enabling Google to provide > >> you with the Service in accordance with its privacy policy." > > >> and > > >> "Google is constantly innovating in order to provide the best possible > >> experience for its users. You acknowledge and agree that the form and > >> nature of the Service which Google provides may change from time to > >> time without prior notice to you, subject to the terms in Sections 4.3 > >> and 10.2. Changes to the form and nature of the Service will be > >> effective with respect to all versions of the Service (including the > >> Deprecated Version of the Service); examples of changes to the form > >> and nature of the Service include without limitation changes to fee > >> and payment policies, security patches, added functionality, and other > >> enhancements." > > >> If this means that our Intellectual property rights are totally > >> surrendered while using GAE, then I think its not giving developers > >> any sense of assurance, much less receiving "the best possible > >> experience". > > >> Please kindly advise. > > >> -Samuel Koh > > -- > Neither the footer nor anything else in this E-mail is intended to or > constitutes an electronic signature and/or legally binding agreement > in the absence of an > express statement of > mehttp://blogspot.tudorconstantin.comhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/tudorconstantin --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. 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