Yes, this feature request seems like a useful idea and earns a star
from me.

It would also be interesting to better understand the routing
algorithms - if App Engine could dynamically slice out multi-node
clusters for individual apps and make an effort to route all requests
to the nodes in these clusters, it would increase the likelihood of
hitting a warm instance.  For all I know, this may already be
happening, but it's not clear to me.

On Sep 21, 12:21 pm, Jason C <[email protected]> wrote:
> There are currently some issues with application spin-up time, which
> is impacting a number of Django (and webapp) applications.
>
> You can see more info here:
>
>  http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1695
>
> Please star it if appropriate.
>
> j
>
> On Sep 21, 11:08 am, vivpuri <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I think Django 1.0 is also supported.
>
> >http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=872
>
> > On Sep 21, 12:13 pm, pdub <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Thanks Josh, I actually did have a cron job running in App Engine
> > > itself.  I tried running an external job because I wasn't sure whether
> > > or not external and internal requests are routed differently.
>
> > > Are you running a custom app framework like Django or are you mostly
> > > sticking to stuff built into App Engine?
>
> > > I may have to consider going with Django 0.96 which apparently is
> > > built into AppEngine, but I'm not really looking forward to such a
> > > migration.
>
> > > Cheers,
> > > Percy
>
> > > On Sep 21, 11:04 am, Joshua Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > How about creating a cron job in the application itself and pinging  
> > > > more frequently?
>
> > > > I have a statistics-collection cron in one of my apps that runs once a  
> > > > minute.  So I suppose I'm doing exactly what you describe, and I  
> > > > certainly do not see much of any variation in response times.
>
> > > > Of course, I can see why google would find this kind of thing pretty  
> > > > annoying, since it could undermine their ability to use their hardware  
> > > > efficiently!
>
> > > > -Joshua
>
> > > > On Sep 21, 2009, at 11:51 AM, pdub wrote:
>
> > > > > I have a Python-based application deployed on the App Engine.  The
> > > > > application framework (Django App Engine Patch) is a little bit
> > > > > heavyweight, so it takes some time to start up and load all the
> > > > > necessary modules, but once it's loaded it's quite fast.  From my
> > > > > logs, it looks like the application is having to start up fairly
> > > > > frequently, which causes very inconsistent response times depending on
> > > > > whether or not it's loading again.  To my knowledge, this can be due
> > > > > to two reasons:
>
> > > > > 1. The request is being handled by a new processing node on which the
> > > > > application hasn't been loaded yet
> > > > > 2. The application had been loaded on this node, but it has been so
> > > > > long since the last request that it has been unloaded in the meantime
>
> > > > > To try to resolve point 2, I created a cron job on an external server
> > > > > that "pings" the home page of my app every 10 seconds or so, and this
> > > > > has helped somewhat.  However, my logs show that the application still
> > > > > has to start up on about half of these ping requests.
>
> > > > > To improve my process for keeping my application warm, it would help
> > > > > if I understood:
>
> > > > > A. How are requests routed in appengine (round-robin, some stickiness,
> > > > > etc.)?
> > > > > B. How long can I typically expect my application to stay loaded in
> > > > > memory?
>
> > > > > This would help me figure out whether my approach is even viable (i.e.
> > > > > won't work for round-robin over large cluster) and what to set my ping
> > > > > interval at.
>
> > > > > Does anyone have any documentation/insights into either of these
> > > > > points and/or suggestions for alternate approaches to achieving more
> > > > > consistent response times?
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