GAE and EC2 are two completely different pairs of shoes.
GAE is a cool and superior concept - but I also suffered badly from
many bugs especially in conjunction with Google Apps, AuthSub and
GData API.
It's always problematic to provide a framework that involves people
from different departments.
Many bugs that I discovered is in nobody's responsibility and that
makes me feel a little bit uncomfortable. I've posted many bugreports
that are still in "new" state and I guess no one ever tried to
reproduce them using my provided code snippets (otherwise they would
have been switched to accepted or any other state than new).
It would be a good idea if Google would create an internal team
combining all the provided Google services into a set of test apps
running on app engine.
Other than that I like App engine ;-)


On 15 Okt., 15:54, Alkis Evlogimenos ('Αλκης Ευλογημένος)
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Are you doing any kind of retries on timeouts?
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Rob Osborne <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > The short answer.  Don't.
>
> > I convinced a client to use GAE and we both regret it.  The App keeps
> > going down at inopportune moments,  the scheduled maintenance outages
> > are in prime time.  For the small number of users (about 600) we get
> > far too many complaints about time out errors.  They are random and
> > there is nothing I can do to fix them.  I don't even see timeouts in
> > the two slow admin pages, they only happen to users.
>
> > The largest issue I have right now is Risk.  Things keep breaking, you
> > can not fix them yourselves and there is nobody to call.  You post it
> > here and hope they can fix.
>
> > Because our app has a small user base GAE is essentially free.  But
> > I've spent enough time and heart ache with GAE that I should have used
> > EC2, it would have been cheaper.  I've got several clients now with
> > more than a year without problems on EC2.  Well, without problems
> > caused by EC2 :-)
>
> > There are other hosting solutions that have worked out the kinks, GAE
> > has not.  It's not ready for prime time.
>
> > Rob.
>
> > On Oct 14, 12:52 am, Richard <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > hello,
>
> > > the App Engine webpage has lots of good information for developers
> > > like us, but what about for our clients?
>
> > > My client is skeptical about deploying on GAE, so I'd like to show him
> > > some propaganda about uptime, costs, etc. Is there anything available,
> > > ideally a short video?
>
> > > cheers,
> > > Richard
>
> --
>
> Alkis
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