I admit to not having been through all of the Java documentation on
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/. I have, however, been through
the Python stuff extensively and never came across anything that
suggests "framing the login page is strongly discouraged". In fact,
some information on recommended HTML usage would be a very welcome
addition to the Google App Engine Docs.

I also was unable to find anything to suggest there was a problem with
the TOS. I'm not modifying anything from Google nor am I usurping or
reverse engineering or bypassing any Google interfaces. In fact, I am
trying desperately to use a Google interface as-is and in such a
manner as is not confusing to my user population.

The frame/object *is* being served from the google.com domain. I have
no desire to nor have I made any attempt to bypass that. Depending on
the browser, there are multiple ways of verifying the source of the
frame. For example, IE's "Properties" and Chrome's "Inspect Element"
clearly show the source address.

Finally, if you have alternatives to suggest, I welcome them. I'm just
trying to do what's best for my users while staying within the limits
of the tools you provide. As evidenced by other contributors to this
thread, you can see that I am not alone in this endeavor.

On Nov 4, 1:40 am, "Nick Johnson (Google)" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Framing the login page is strongly discouraged, and may in fact be contrary
> to the TOS. The only way for the user to determine that a login page for a
> Google account is legitimate is to check if it's being served off the
> google.com domain, and this is not possible inside a frame.
>
> -Nick Johnson
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:36 PM, reyelts <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I apologize if I'm posting to the wrong place, I don't know if this is
> > a basic HTML question, a Python question, a GAE question, or some
> > combination of the set...
>
> > Since we can't have much impact on the use login window for Google App
> > Engine (ie to change the language or add an image), I'm looking at
> > embedding the login page, like so:
>
> > from google.appengine.ext        import webapp
> > from google.appengine.api        import users
>
> > class main(webapp.RequestHandler):
> >   def get(self):
> >       user = users.get_current_user()
>
> >      if user == None:
> >         self.response.out.write('<html>\n<body>\n')
> >         self.response.out.write('<p>My intro text</p>\n')
> >         self.response.out.write('<hr>\n')
> >         self.response.out.write('<object\n')
> >         self.response.out.write('  data="' + users.create_login_url
> > (self.request.uri) + '"\n')
> >         self.response.out.write('  type="text/html"\n')
> >         self.response.out.write('  width=100% height=50%>\n')
> >         self.response.out.write('</object>')
> >         self.response.out.write('<hr>\n')
> >         self.response.out.write('</body>\n</html>\n')
> >      else:
> >         self.response.out.write('<html>\n<body>\n')
> >         self.response.out.write('<p>' + user.nickname() + 'is logged
> > in!</p>\n')
> >         self.response.out.write('</body>\n</html>\n')
>
> > This works fine: I get "My intro text" at the top of the window
> > followed by a pane with the login. However, when I login, the result
> > ("user is logged in") is written to the pane where the login occurred,
> > vs. replacing the whole window. I tried this with the older <iframe>,
> > and get the same result.
>
> > Is there a way to re-take over the complete window (ie make the frame
> > I created go away) on the redirect?
>
> --
> Nick Johnson, Developer Programs Engineer, App Engine
> Google Ireland Ltd. :: Registered in Dublin, Ireland, Registration Number:
> 368047
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