Locke , May be you are right I am not that experienced, but since I have been around programming since IBM 360 370 era, machines you probably have only seen in technology museums, and I tough the subject for years etc. etc. and I still make a living from this job, means I am only lucky. By the way my good lack helped me yesterday too when my latest appl hosted on GAE was reviewed as Mashup of the day by programmableweb. Anyway - I will repeat here one more time what I posted some time ago on the same subject.
GAE is another kind of animal - it has lots of visrtues and some limitations compared to conventional hosting. Most of the limitations engineering wise are the result of its virtues, some others can be rectified and I am sure there will be progress on that in future. In my opinion for a large percentage of Web appls its virtues far outnumber its limitations. We as engineers must utilize the tool we have in the best way we can. Talking about scaling, I would emphasize "automatic scaling". Talking about Economic terms I want to draw your attention to that GAE is a very attractive solution just because you can calculate your costs up to cpu_ms and byte units, this factor alone can lead to business models never heard off before. A byproduct of the above is that GAE is the most "Green" platform around. Well if you think of all the above for a while before you come back with an other "GAE=joke" thread. Happy coding Nick On Jan 14, 5:49 am, Locke <[email protected]> wrote: > Nick, you must have very little experience programming if you can't > think of a reason for a process to run for more than thirty seconds. > Ever hear of background tasks? Cron? TaskQueue? Ever use URLFetch? > That eats your execution time no matter how efficient your app is. > Right now, appengine just does not scale. There are way too many hard > limits and rate limits. > > It makes sense to rate-limit free users. It does NOT make sense to > rate-limit paying customers. Cloud computing is supposed to scale. > > On Jan 13, 6:19 pm, nickmilon <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Thanasis > > > take it easy - it was just a joke (may be of a bad taste but, as you > > mentioned it was not my day) , and nothing to do with your English the > > intention was just to make you think that sometimes we write bad code > > in a harry and then blame the infrastructure or whatever. > > > Getting to GAE now, this late start symptom has been covered in other > > threads here and there are explanations - solutions which I will not > > repeat. > > I have huge pages with more than 60 KB of js and some more of CSS and > > 3rd party js etc etc, and which I have not even optimized yet, still > > hot start or cold start never exceeds 3'' including DNS lookups for > > complete load you can try it herehttp://www.geognos.com/geo/en/cc/af.html > > or try http://milon.appspot.com/stravon/db/cc/83.212.217.149latest > > performs a fetch from 100K+ records that include the complete IP > > allocations database and since nobody is using it you can be sure you > > will get a cold start. > > > Besides, I have seen other people here complain about their appls been > > slow and I verified it my self, the miracle is same applications > > became very fast in a couple of weeks time - I do not think the > > infrastructure improved that much meanwhile, just they have rewritten > > their code in a better way. > > > Now this is my experience and that of many others with whom I talk > > about GAE, I can't exclude the possibility that you people complaining > > have a kind of bad lack and your Apps ride on a bad server or anything > > else. > > Still I think you got to know better GAE before you start > > complaining, study the docs read the previous posts and if you have > > something special to solve come back here and describe your problem > > without any remarks, I am sure you will find people willing to help, > > or... you are free to switch to a conventional hosting platform if > > you feel better there, staying here just complaining that GAE is joke > > it is not helpful neither too you nor to the community. > > > Happy coding > > > Nick
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