Our ISP is Verizon.

Here are the TraceRoutes:

C:\Users\Jitendra>tracert qa.connectscholar.com

Tracing route to ghs.l.google.com [74.125.113.121]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  Wireless_Broadband_Router.home
[192.168.1.1]
  2     7 ms     6 ms     7 ms  L100.BSTNMA-VFTTP-86.verizon-gni.net
[98.110.150.1]
  3     9 ms     9 ms     7 ms  G1-0-786.BSTNMA-LCR-07.verizon-gni.net
[130.81.110.244]
  4    12 ms    10 ms    11 ms  so-0-3-0-0.BOS-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net
[130.81.29.252]
  5    22 ms    20 ms    21 ms  so-9-1-0-0.NY325-BB-RTR1.verizon-
gni.net [130.81.19.70]
  6    89 ms    19 ms    18 ms  0.so-0-0-0.XL3.NYC4.ALTER.NET
[152.63.1.41]
  7    17 ms    19 ms    18 ms  0.xe-5-0-0.BR3.NYC4.ALTER.NET
[152.63.16.181]
  8    22 ms    19 ms    19 ms  te-7-0-0.edge2.NewYork2.level3.net
[4.68.110.69]
  9    19 ms    18 ms    19 ms  vlan51.ebr1.NewYork2.Level3.net
[4.69.138.222]
 10    31 ms    28 ms    29 ms  ae-3-3.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net
[4.69.132.89]
 11    38 ms    34 ms    36 ms  ae-92-92.csw4.Washington1.Level3.net
[4.69.134.158]
 12    27 ms    25 ms    26 ms  ae-4-99.edge1.Washington1.Level3.net
[4.68.17.208]
 13    28 ms    29 ms    83 ms  GOOGLE-
INC.edge1.Washington1.Level3.net [4.79.231.6]
 14    28 ms    26 ms    26 ms  209.85.241.50
 15    39 ms    39 ms    59 ms  209.85.248.75
 16    55 ms    56 ms    55 ms  209.85.243.25
 17    55 ms    54 ms    53 ms  209.85.251.228
 18    55 ms     *        *     72.14.236.193
 19    56 ms    55 ms    54 ms  vw-in-f121.1e100.net [74.125.113.121]

Trace complete.

C:\Users\Jitendra>tracert charityaxis-qa.appspot.com

Tracing route to appspot.l.google.com [72.14.204.141]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  Wireless_Broadband_Router.home
[192.168.1.1]
  2     8 ms     6 ms     6 ms  L100.BSTNMA-VFTTP-86.verizon-gni.net
[98.110.150.1]
  3    11 ms    10 ms    10 ms  G1-0-786.BSTNMA-LCR-07.verizon-gni.net
[130.81.110.244]
  4    10 ms    11 ms    11 ms  so-0-3-0-0.BOS-BB-RTR1.verizon-gni.net
[130.81.29.252]
  5    20 ms    19 ms    19 ms  so-9-1-0-0.NY325-BB-RTR1.verizon-
gni.net [130.81.19.70]
  6    17 ms    18 ms    19 ms  0.so-0-0-0.XL3.NYC4.ALTER.NET
[152.63.1.41]
  7    20 ms    69 ms    21 ms  0.xe-5-0-0.BR2.NYC4.ALTER.NET
[152.63.18.5]
  8    17 ms    18 ms    18 ms  xe-10-2-0.edge2.NewYork2.level3.net
[4.68.110.233]
  9    19 ms    18 ms    18 ms  vlan51.ebr1.NewYork2.Level3.net
[4.69.138.222]
 10    29 ms    27 ms    28 ms  ae-3-3.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net
[4.69.132.89]
 11    36 ms    36 ms    26 ms  ae-92-92.csw4.Washington1.Level3.net
[4.69.134.158]
 12    30 ms    32 ms    26 ms  ae-3-89.edge1.Washington1.Level3.net
[4.68.17.144]
 13    28 ms    29 ms    28 ms  GOOGLE-
INC.edge1.Washington1.Level3.net [4.79.22.38]
 14    30 ms    30 ms    31 ms  209.85.240.136
 15    36 ms    31 ms    35 ms  66.249.94.54
 16    29 ms    28 ms    26 ms  iad04s01-in-f141.1e100.net
[72.14.204.141]

Trace complete.

C:\Users\Jitendra>

On Jun 4, 6:23 pm, "Ikai L (Google)" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Can you guys run a traceroute on your domains vs. the appspot domain?
>
> E.g:
>
> traceroute qa.connectscholar.com
> traceroute charityaxis-qa.appspot.com
>
> If you're on Windows, the equivalent command is "tracert".
>
> I'm curious if there's an ISP or specific Google Frontend that is acting up.
>
> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Ikai L (Google) <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > You should still be billed for bandwidth. The advantage of using edge
> > caching is that if the resource is being served from the datastore or
> > dynamically generated via some other means, you will not incur CPU costs.
>
> > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Ross M Karchner 
> > <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> >> Partially off-topic---  if GFE serves a cached resource, do we get billed
> >> for the bandwidth?
>
> >> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Ikai L (Google) <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> >>> Okay, looks like the Google Front-End is kicking in to cache your stuff
>
> >>> Server  Google Frontend
> >>> Content-Length  2834
> >>> Age     41
> >>> Cache-Control   public, max-age=600
>
> >>> Are you guys setting this header anywhere? Unfortunately, there's no way
> >>> to invalidate items in the frontend cache, so you'll have to use a cache
> >>> buster or wait for the TTL to expire.
>
> >>> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:22 PM, J <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>> That's interesting, Rafael. I wonder why it serves correctly for you.
>
> >>>> They are still different from my PoV.
>
> >>>> The bad side headers:
> >>>> Etag    "74EQOA"
> >>>> Date    Tue, 01 Jun 2010 18:12:57 GMT
> >>>> Expires Sat, 05 Jun 2010 02:12:57 GMT
> >>>> Content-Type    text/css
> >>>> Content-Encoding        gzip
> >>>> Server  Google Frontend
> >>>> Content-Length  2820
> >>>> Cache-Control   public, max-age=288000
> >>>> Age     90134
> >>>> X-XSS-Protection        0
>
> >>>> The good side headers:
> >>>> Etag    "7xGL5w"
> >>>> Date    Wed, 02 Jun 2010 19:13:00 GMT
> >>>> Expires Wed, 02 Jun 2010 19:12:04 GMT
> >>>> Content-Type    text/css
> >>>> Content-Encoding        gzip
> >>>> Server  Google Frontend
> >>>> Content-Length  2834
> >>>> Age     41
> >>>> Cache-Control   public, max-age=600
>
> >>>> Short of using a cache-buster, is there a setting I can use on GAE or
> >>>> in my app.yaml file?
>
> >>>> On Jun 2, 3:01 pm, "Ikai L (Google)" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> > I wonder if there is some layer of the infrastructure that is
> >>>> performing
> >>>> > caching without you guys having opted-in, hence the reason why a
> >>>> > cache-buster like ?v=something works. Can you guys confirm? Also - are
> >>>> you
> >>>> > guys setting any headers? Which headers get returned?
>
> >>>> > I've personally always used cache busters for the simple reason that
> >>>> > sometimes users using web-accelerators or with aggressive ISP or
> >>>> caching
> >>>> > settings tend to key off the URL. Can you guys use this workaround in
> >>>> the
> >>>> > meantime?
>
> >>>> > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Rafael Sierra <[email protected]
> >>>> >wrote:
>
> >>>> > > On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 3:37 PM, J <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> > > > To reproduce the problem, go to
> >>>> > >http://qa.connectscholar.com/stylesheets/caSkin.css
> >>>> > > > and also tohttp://
> >>>> charityaxis-qa.appspot.com/stylesheets/caSkin.css.
> >>>> > > > Both URLs point to the same file but one returns the old content
> >>>> and
> >>>> > > > appspot.com returns the new content.
>
> >>>> > > Same file here:
>
> >>>> > > Hidan:~ sdm$ curlhttp://
> >>>> charityaxis-qa.appspot.com/stylesheets/caSkin.css> 1
> >>>> > >  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time
> >>>> Time
> >>>> > >  Current
> >>>> > >                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent
> >>>>  Left
> >>>> > >  Speed
> >>>> > > 100 10941    0 10941    0     0   6146      0 --:--:--  0:00:01
> >>>> --:--:--
> >>>> > > 31918
> >>>> > > Hidan:~ sdm$ curlhttp://
> >>>> qa.connectscholar.com/stylesheets/caSkin.css> 2
> >>>> > >  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time
> >>>> Time
> >>>> > >  Current
> >>>> > >                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent
> >>>>  Left
> >>>> > >  Speed
> >>>> > > 100 10941    0 10941    0     0   2777      0 --:--:--  0:00:03
> >>>> --:--:--
> >>>> > >  3854
> >>>> > > Hidan:~ sdm$ md5 1
> >>>> > > MD5 (1) = 8f5ef511be1a03fd722223337c334933
> >>>> > > Hidan:~ sdm$ md5 2
> >>>> > > MD5 (2) = 8f5ef511be1a03fd722223337c334933
>
> >>>> > > > On Jun 2, 1:18 pm, "Ikai L (Google)" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> > > >> Thanks for bringing this up, Tim. Anyone else seeing this
> >>>> problem? If
> >>>> > > so,
> >>>> > > >> please post details. Are you guys setting any kind of cache
> >>>> headers?
>
> >>>> > > >> I'm going to try to reproduce these issues, so any information
> >>>> will be
> >>>> > > >> helpful.
>
> >>>> > > >> On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 9:14 AM, J <[email protected]>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>> > > >> > Thanks, Tim, for letting me know I'm not going insane.
>
> >>>> > > >> > To the Google guys, this problem seems to have started
> >>>> yesterday
> >>>> > > >> > afternoon (1:30-ish PM, EDT) in case it helps you track down
> >>>> the
> >>>> > > >> > cause.
>
> >>>> > > >> > On Jun 2, 8:19 am, Tim Hoffman <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> > > >> > > Hi
>
> >>>> > > >> > > We have been trying to deploy a major revision of one of our
> >>>> apps.
>
> >>>> > > >> > > Under the specific version 2-0-0.latest...  all the new
> >>>> css/js and
> >>>> > > >> > > static images are available.
>
> >>>> > > >> > > When we make the new version default, the css, js and static
> >>>> files
> >>>> > > are
> >>>> > > >> > > accessible via <appid>.appspot.com
>
> >>>> > > >> > > However when accessing the same site via the google apps
> >>>> domain
> >>>> > > >> > > mapping we are still
> >>>> > > >> > > getting the old versions css, js and static images.
>
> >>>> > > >> > > I have tried removing the apps domain mapping and re-adding
> >>>> it with
> >>>> > > no
> >>>> > > >> > > affect.
>
> >>>> > > >> > > We have had to revert to the earlier version as all access to
> >>>> the
> >>>> > > site
> >>>> > > >> > > is via the apps domain and
> >>>> > > >> > > its not working with the latest version missing the new
> >>>> css/js.
>
> >>>> > > >> > > has anyone got any ideas on how we can address this.
>
> >>>> > > >> > > I know absolutely that the problem is not a browser cache, as
> >>>> I have
> >>>> > > >> > > been checking the css files via wget.
>
> >>>> > > >> > > Thanks for any help
>
> >>>> > > >> > > regards
>
> >>>> > > >> > > Tim
>
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