Sorry, you are right. The problem is that the Windows 7 certificate
store does not have the Equifax root certificate out of the box (on
Windows XP it does). The number of root certificates included with
Windows 7 out of the box is actually quite low.

The machines where I tested this and got an error (Windows 7 and 2008)
are fully updated (including the root certificates update). However
they are behind a proxy server, and maybe the root certificates update
doesn't work over a proxy server. I manually installed the root
certificates update again (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/
confirmation.aspx?
familyId=e4f9b573-66d7-4dda-95d5-26c7d0f6c652&displayLang=en) with the
machine connected directly to the internet and it populated the
certificate store with the missing root certificates.

I guess this is still a problem, but only for users that do not update
or that are behind HTTP proxy servers (corporate users, mostly).

Best regards,

On Aug 27, 10:13 am, Carlos Rodrigues <[email protected]> wrote:
> The Equifax certificate is there, but the problem is with the
> intermediate CA's certificate (Google's), which isn't found.
>
> If it works for you on Windows 7, maybe you have Google's CA
> certificate installed. This would certainly make the error go away,
> but we can't ask users to do this (because most won't).
>
> @James: This is not a limitation of wildcard certificates because it
> works on Firefox but also with all browsers I've tested on Windows XP
> and OS X (including Safari, which shows the error on Windows 7).
>
> Best regards,
>
> On Aug 27, 2:36 am, Matthew Blain <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > This works for me on Windows 7. It's possible that the root
> > certificates on your Windows machine are somehow missing the Equifax
> > Secure Certificate Authority root certificate (also sometimes listed
> > as GeoTrust)? Have you edited your list? I see a suggestion online to
> > also check Windows Updates to see if there's a certificate update,
> > though I believe this is not a recent CA.
>
> > --Matthew
>
> > On Aug 26, 10:45 am, Robert Kluin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Interesting.  You are right, I probably checked using a XP vm not a Win 7 
> > > vm.
>
> > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:44, Carlos Rodrigues <[email protected]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > BTW, this is not a problem exclusive to GAE. The certificate for
> > > > "code.google.com" also seems to have changed recently and I just got a
> > > > warning from TortoiseSVN that the new certificate cannot be validated
> > > > because the certificate chain is incomplete.
>
> > > > Best regards,
>
> > > > On Aug 26, 3:42 pm, Carlos Rodrigues <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> Since the problem only happens with browsers that rely on Windows'
> > > >> certificate infrastructure, the version of Windows matters.
>
> > > >> I've tested with IE 8 on Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 and the
> > > >> problem occurs;
> > > >> I've also tested with IE 7 on Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 and
> > > >> the problem does not occur;
>
> > > >> I did not test with Windows Vista.
>
> > > >> It seems that older versions of Windows follow the certificate chain
> > > >> (by downloading it from somewhere), while the more recent versions
> > > >> only follow it if the webserver itself provides the intermediate CA's
> > > >> certificate (as I said, I've tested with other sites that use
> > > >> intermediate CAs and they show no errors - because the intermediate
> > > >> CA's certificate is being provided by Apache using the option I
> > > >> mentioned before).
>
> > > >> Best regards,
>
> > > >> On Aug 25, 10:19 pm, Robert Kluin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > >> > I only get a certificate error if I go 
> > > >> > tohttps://test.xx.appspot.com.  I do not get errors going 
> > > >> > tohttps://xx.appspot.com.
>
> > > >> > I tested with IE and Chrome and Windows.
>
> > > >> > Robert
>
> > > >> > On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 05:27, Carlos Rodrigues 
> > > >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> > > Hi again,
>
> > > >> > > Any ideas? This is a show-stopper as far as secure applications 
> > > >> > > go...
>
> > > >> > > Best regards,
>
> > > >> > > On Aug 23, 12:39 pm, Carlos Rodrigues <[email protected]> 
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > >> Hi all,
>
> > > >> > >> I'm developing a small application on GAE that requires HTTPs, 
> > > >> > >> however
> > > >> > >> I'm having some trouble with the "*.appspot.com" certificate.
>
> > > >> > >> O Chrome, Safari and IE on Windows I get a certificate validation
> > > >> > >> error. This error appears to be related to the certificate 
> > > >> > >> validation
> > > >> > >> path, because the topmost authority is "Google Internet 
> > > >> > >> Authority" and
> > > >> > >> show as "Not found".
>
> > > >> > >> On Firefox there is no error, and the certificate chain correctly
> > > >> > >> shows Equifax as the root CA and "Google Internet Authority" as an
> > > >> > >> intermediate CA.
>
> > > >> > >> On the Mac both Firefox and Safari work without showing any 
> > > >> > >> errors.
>
> > > >> > >> Is there a way around this? I can't expect users to trust the
> > > >> > >> application if they get a certificate error on Windows in every
> > > >> > >> browser except Firefox.
>
> > > >> > >> So a summary of tested browsers:
>
> > > >> > >>   * Internet Explorer 8 (Windows): error
> > > >> > >>   * Safari (Windows): error
> > > >> > >>   * Safari (OS X): OK
> > > >> > >>   * Chrome (Windows): error
> > > >> > >>   * Firefox (Windows): OK
> > > >> > >>   * Firefox (OS X): OK
>
> > > >> > >> It appears that browsers which use the integrated certificate
> > > >> > >> infrastructure on Windows are affected, and others are not.
>
> > > >> > >> I know that Windows supports intermediate CAs because I've tested 
> > > >> > >> it.
> > > >> > >> But it seems to require that the website itself provides the
> > > >> > >> intermediate CAs certificate (for example, on Apache this would 
> > > >> > >> be the
> > > >> > >> "SSLCertificateChainFile /path/to/intermediate-ca.crt" option).
>
> > > >> > >> Google App Engine does not appear to do this.
>
> > > >> > >> Best regards,
> > > >> > >>    Carlos Rodrigues
>
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