It may have settled down for you Tim, but we are being hammered by
DeadlineExceededError right now. Log time: 8.27a Thursday 2010-09-02

AppID: steprep

In the past, this problem seems to be localized to small (presumably)
clusters of apps.

Can someone please look into our specific cluster?

Thanks,
j

On Sep 1, 6:06 pm, Tim Hoffman <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> It seems that the massive increase startup times has settled down.
>
> But we effectively had to app instances down for about 16 hours due to
> the issue.
> It is clear the startup peformance issue is not my code as it was
> affecting a other people, but
> was not widespread enough to get on the system status radar.
>
> And issue for it was 
> raisedhttp://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=3667
>
> The outage was not good but to be honest the biggest problem my
> management hand with it
> was the complete absence of any response from google during this
> period.
>
> Last time we had a major issue it took a week, and a large report
> prepared by myself detailing what was
> going on before I could get any response from google. The response was
> also
> limited to "This is a known issue, we are working to address it" which
> is fine in it self at least some communication
> was eventually made but it should not have taken a week and about 3
> days of effort on my part to actually get any form of response.
>
> See the final part of that saga 
> here.http://groups.google.com.au/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thre...
>
> I am huge advocate of appengine and we are using it more and more, but
> the total feeling of helplessness you
> get when you have instances non functioning because they can't even
> startup for an extended period and
> no feedback what so ever makes it very hard to even manage
> expectations, and impossible to report to management
> about any form of progress in resolving the issue.
>
> In addition  when this happened last time, a journalist from the
> Register contacted me about the issue and asked for more information
> so they could do a story about the lack of communication from google
> on these sorts of issues. I declined, but maybe it does need some
> more visibility and least with in the app engine user community.
>
> Regards
>
> Tim Hoffman
>
> On Sep 1, 11:54 pm, Tim Hoffman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > The rate of errors has dropped off somewhat.
>
> > It is still happening though.
>
> > T
>
> > On Sep 1, 7:24 pm, Tim Hoffman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Further investigation shows these excessive startup times are being
> > > experienced by more than one instance.
>
> > > Appid's qtrack-dev, q-tracker.
>
> > > T
>
> > > On Sep 1, 5:15 pm, Tim Hoffman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Hi
>
> > > > I am still having trouble getting instances to get past initial
> > > > import  (appid q-tracker)
>
> > > > I have even tried starting old versions to get around failed imports.
>
> > > > for the last 10 minutes all startup attempts end in DeadlineExceeded
> > > > error.
>
> > > > T
>
> > > > On Sep 1, 2:45 pm, Tim Hoffman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Hi
>
> > > > > As I have pointed out in the past  its quite possible to get pockets
> > > > > of appengine  instances experiencing extremely poor performance and
> > > > > this doesn't show up in the system status.  (http://
> > > > > groups.google.com.au/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/
> > > > > 23e988d494144242/8ff964f7ffcc0b37?q=#8ff964f7ffcc0b37)
>
> > > > > Apps seemd to be sharded into different parts of appengine
> > > > > infrastructure based on appid.
>
> > > > > I hope this problem is just transitory for tosay and I don't have to
> > > > > spend days collecting evidence again.
>
> > > > > T
>
> > > > > On Sep 1, 2:30 pm, Tim Hoffman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Hi
>
> > > > > > Except it isn't. I am still getting hit with extremeley long startup
> > > > > > times.
> > > > > > I am not even getting around to accessing the datastore.  Failure is
> > > > > > always during instance startup.
>
> > > > > > T
>
> > > > > > On Sep 1, 2:27 pm, Andi Albrecht <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Sorry, I've missed this announcement on Downtime Notify:
>
> > > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify/brows...
>
> > > > > > > As noted in my previous post, everything's fine now :)
>
> > > > > > > Andi
>
> > > > > > > Tim Hoffman <[email protected]> writes:
> > > > > > > > Hi
>
> > > > > > > > I am still seeing them on and off, everything might be fine for 
> > > > > > > > 20min,
> > > > > > > > then bam.
> > > > > > > > I have even been having some dashboard failures.
>
> > > > > > > > T
>
> > > > > > > > On Sep 1, 1:55 pm, Andi Albrecht <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> Tim Hoffman <[email protected]> writes:
> > > > > > > >> > Hi
>
> > > > > > > >> > As of today I am getting a lot of DeadlineExceeded Errors on 
> > > > > > > >> > a couple
> > > > > > > >> > of instances druing startup.
>
> > > > > > > >> > I am not even getting past the initial imports,
>
> > > > > > > >> > Nothing is being reported in system status, so it's probably
> > > > > > > >> > restricted part of the appengine structure.
>
> > > > > > > >> > Tim
>
> > > > > > > >> Hi Tim,
>
> > > > > > > >> do you still see these issues? I've seen a couple of different 
> > > > > > > >> errors a
> > > > > > > >> few hours ago, but now everything looks fine again.
>
> > > > > > > >> Andi

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