@Harshal Actually slower requests mostly consume more cpu time and are much more expensive by default..
On Sep 15, 8:28 pm, Harshal <[email protected]> wrote: > I am OK with Google introducing tiered pricing for handle this issue. Don't > take these numbers at their face values, but you would get the point I am > trying to make here. > > Avg. Requests CPU Charges > > < 700ms $0.02/hr > < 1500ms $0.04/hr > < 2000ms $0.06/hr > > For all the requests Google provision new servers but if you requests take > longer you pay higher. Not sure if it really makes sense, but the idea of > totally not allowing any scaling up is not good enough motivation to write > ever more complex apps. > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:51 PM, Jeff Schwartz > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > +1 and a whole lot more :( > > > While it is all our goals to produce efficient applications that can be > > scaled out, the platform itself has to be usable &, might I add, enforce > > ceilings that don't choke the life out of even the simplest of processes. In > > that regard I'd be willing to give up a little bit of scalability for > > somewhat more relaxed quotas. > > > But the real issue I believe is that of imposing unrealistic quotas. It is > > one thing to show an example of an efficient application built by Google and > > another to show how that relates to real world applications that though they > > employ all the same best practices still cannot function within the > > allowable quotas. > > > Resiliency is also a major issue on App Engine, if 99% of our code is > > protect the app from what can go wrong and that eats up our quota, what is > > left for doing real work? > > > It is my desire and I suppose that of many if not even most of the other > > developers that Google rethink their approach to providing scalability & > > resiliency to the masses on App Engine. > > > Jeff > > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Gordon <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> bothering, indeed.. > > >> On Sep 15, 6:11 pm, Robert Kluin <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > I am starting to get concerned. A few months ago this number was > >> > 1000ms, right? Then about a month or two ago it became 850ms; > >> > actually I have even saw the 850 number posted within the last week. > >> > Now it is 700ms? > > >> > From my experience, getting or putting even a single entity can use a > >> > substantial portion of 700ms (20% to 40%). If you operate on multiple > >> > entities you'll easily use 1/2 of 700ms. Just the act of _running_ a > >> > query takes around 250ms -- when the datastore is actually functioning > >> > correctly. > > >> > This trend is _really_ not good. > > >> > Robert > > >> > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:18, bFlood <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > not for nothing, but isn't "we may not schedule additional servers for > >> > > your app" throttling? > > >> > > when did 700ms become a magic number? > > >> > > On Sep 15, 9:33 am, "Nick Johnson (Google)" <[email protected]> > >> > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > > >> > >> We don't throttle apps. If your average latency is over 700 > >> milliseconds for > >> > >> user-facing requests, we may not schedule additional servers for your > >> app, > >> > >> however. > > >> > >> What leads you to conclude that your app is being throttled? > > >> > >> -Nick Johnson > > >> > >> On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Coding Social < > >> [email protected]>wrote: > > >> > >> > Hi, > > >> > >> > I have had appid mapthislink for many months now. Recently my > >> > >> > extensions that use this web service to unwind urls have been > >> featured > >> > >> > by Google Chrome and Apple Safari so usage is up substantially. > > >> > >> > Can someone turn off the throttle? Causing latency and 13% error > >> > >> > rate. > > >> > >> > Thank you. > > >> > >> > -- > >> > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups > >> > >> > "Google App Engine" group. > >> > >> > To post to this group, send email to > >> [email protected]. > >> > >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> > >> > [email protected]<google-appengine%2Bunsubscrib > >> > >> > [email protected]><google-appengine%2Bunsubscrib > >> [email protected]> > >> > >> > . > >> > >> > For more options, visit this group at > >> > >> >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > >> > >> -- > >> > >> Nick Johnson, Developer Programs Engineer, App Engine Google Ireland > >> Ltd. :: > >> > >> Registered in Dublin, Ireland, Registration Number: 368047 > >> > >> Google Ireland Ltd. :: Registered in Dublin, Ireland, Registration > >> Number: > >> > >> 368047 > > >> > > -- > >> > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "Google App Engine" group. > >> > > To post to this group, send email to > >> [email protected]. > >> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected]<google-appengine%2Bunsubscrib > >> [email protected]> > >> . > >> > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > >> groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "Google App Engine" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected]<google-appengine%2Bunsubscrib > >> [email protected]> > >> . > >> For more options, visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > > -- > > -- > > Jeff > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Google App Engine" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<google-appengine%2Bunsubscrib > > [email protected]> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. 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