Hi Broc, Wow, thanks for the writeup. This is really useful information. We're making some changes and bug fixes to Google Accounts in our next release to support the migration, so I hope those resolve the issue.
-- Ikai Lan Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine Blogger: http://googleappengine.blogspot.com Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine Twitter: http://twitter.com/app_engine On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Broc Seib <[email protected]> wrote: > The app id is "empower-text" and my authentication id is broc.seib [at] > gentomi.com. Update: Late this afternoon I successfully deployed my > app. Below I explain why I think it worked. Can you confirm or rule out my > suspicions below? > > > Here's what I suspect happened: When I "transitioned" my domain's accounts, > I kept choosing the "Do this later" button, being nonplussed with the other > choices. Today I bit the bullet and took the choice to create a new gmail > account, and I think this action *truly* completed my transition. I had > previously thought I was already done, because my initial transition email > from "[email protected]" said I was done. It read, > > "Hello Google Apps user, > Your Google Apps account has been successfully transitioned to function > more like a full Google Account! [...]" > > While I was in this not-fully-transitioned state, whenever I would login > with my [email protected] account, I would always be presented with > the "Your account has changed" page (the one with the two choices: 1) create > yet another gmail account, or 2) use non-google account like yahoo). This > meant something was catching this not-fully-transitioned state and > redirecting me to this page. But somehow at this point I was considered to > be logged in as login.name%[email protected]. > > So when I was deploying my app I suspect when the appcfg client was > connecting to appengine, it must have been hitting this same redirection, > and my http session ending up having an identity of login.name% > [email protected], and thus an authorization error.... ???? > I'm purely speculating here. What do you think? > > > So if my reluctance to make a choice caused this problem, then I guess my > advice to others is to make their choice and move on! Don't choose "Do it > later". I just didn't like any of my choices. Yes, I understand not being > able to "merge" two accounts because if they use the same google product, > then the data for that product cannot really be "merged". But what about the > case where a product is only used for one of the two accounts? Why can't I > just "absorb" that product's data into one of the two accounts? There is > nothing for it to conflict against... right? Maybe this is a naive > perspective. > > My concrete example is Google Checkout: I used my [email protected] > I created an account as a merchant in Google Checkout. I *want* to use > my merchant account as a user *in* my domain! But now it is split off to be > accessed under a separate gmail ID. As an administrator of mydomain.com I > should have had the option to "bring in" the Google Checkout product data to > my domain. Yes I understand that technically that data belongs to that > individual as a "personal account", and me as a domain administrator may not > have the "right" to grab an individual's personal data -- like picasa pics, > or such. But there must be a way for all parties to agree "this is OK". In > this case all these parties is a single person: me. And I want to do it all > under one roof for my business. > > I see that in the last 24 hours the "Your account has changed" page now > shows more specifically which products are being used with your account. > This is paramount to making good transition choices. I just wish those > individual listed products would indicate if there may be a "request product > data to be moved" into the domain or not. > > Sorry I went off topic from being app-engine specific. I hope other > "transitioning" app engine users can avoid this problem (if my guess of the > cause was correct). I need to direct this feedback to the accounts folks at > Google working on account transition. > > Regards, > Broc > > > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 5:37 PM, Ikai Lan (Google) < > [email protected] <ikai.l%[email protected]>> wrote: > >> What's your application ID? Are you deploying using the Gmail address >> you're sending this email from? >> >> -- >> Ikai Lan >> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine >> Blogger: http://googleappengine.blogspot.com >> Reddit: http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/app_engine >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:27 PM, broc.seib <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> If a Google person looks for evidence in the app engine logs, the last >>> (failed) deploy attempt I made was about fifteen minutes ago, i.e. >>> 12:09AM 9/30/2010 EST. I got another 403 error in my deploy logs. >>> >>> I was also going to try to manually send a war file up using appcfg, >>> but I can't seem to export a war file out of eclipse for this type of >>> project... >>> >>> Broc >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sep 29, 10:21 pm, Broc Seib <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > Hi, >>> > >>> > In the last 24 ~ 48 hours, I have no longer been able to deploy apps to >>> > my app engine account. I get error "Unable to update app: Unknown". >>> > >>> > To be specific, I right-click my project in Eclipse, choose "Google" in >>> > the menu, and "Deploy to App Engine" in the sub-menu. I supply my id >>> > ([email protected]), and my password. These are the exact same >>> > credentials that allow me access tohttps:// >>> appengine.google.com/a/mydomain.com, and these credentials >>> > have worked for my previous 23 deployments. My password is correct, no >>> > CAPS LOCK, etc., and I can access my app engine account online just >>> > fine. >>> > >>> > Here's what happens: After a couple minutes of compiling and staging >>> > are complete, I get an error dialog in eclipse that says: "Unable to >>> > update app: Unknown". The deployment console says: >>> > >>> > [... compiling and staging ...] >>> > Initiating update. >>> > com.google.appengine.tools.admin.ServerConnection$ClientLoginException: >>> > Unknown >>> > >>> > Debugging information may be found in C:\Documents and >>> > Settings\username\Local >>> > Settings\Temp\appengine-deploy5570861988423929801.log >>> > >>> > This debugging log file is attached. There is a line that stands out in >>> > that log file. It is a 403 error code which implies that there is >>> > likely some kind of *authorization* issue going on after I >>> authenticate. >>> > >>> > Caused by: java.io.IOException: Server returned HTTP response code: 403 >>> > for URL:https://www.google.com/accounts/ClientLogin >>> > >>> > OK. There is one more fact I am suspicious about: My Google Apps domain >>> > is participating in the "accounts transition", i.e., >>> http://www.google.com/support/accounts/bin/answer.py?answer=187513 >>> > However, I successfully "transistioned" my domain on Sep. 11, and have >>> > successfully deployed to app engine between then and now. But this >>> > account transition thing *is* a variable I am suspicious about. >>> > >>> > Can anyone provide insight into why this is failing? Any workarounds? I >>> > have tried multiple times all day today and it consistently fails. I am >>> > completely dead in the water unable to update my app.... :-| >>> > >>> > Regards, >>> > Broc >>> > >>> > appengine-deploy5570861988423929801.log.txt >>> > 2KViewDownload >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Google App Engine" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]<google-appengine%[email protected]> >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Google App Engine" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<google-appengine%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<google-appengine%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. 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