On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:24 PM, Tim Hoffman <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I think you made some fairly inaccurate statements here.

note that I was quoting the blogger.

I'm not replying for him, but I'm in the same situation. It's not that
I'm blaming GAE because I hate google. I love google products, that's
why we choose gae in the first place.
Moving out from gae it would be very painful for us, as sure it was
for the blogger.
It's not a decision that someone take because he's misread a post.

>> this is our same experience. We're willing to pay for our application
>> being available but this is not possible. Commercially speaking Azure
>> proposal from MSFT is much much better.
>> frankly we have heavily invested in our time to deliver our GAE
>> appliaction (try it at:http://netnumero.appspot.com/company/mycompany) just 
>> to discover if
>> someone don't use it for more than 10 sec. it go down and must be
>
> I have never seen app instances recycled in less than 10 secs.  (7
> apps and counting running at the moment)
> (the amount of time for recycling instances has varied from about 1
> minute out to nearly 10 mins in the last 2 years) .

Mine was, if you can believe me. Now maybe it's around 30 sec. on peak time.
Maybe it was because it was new, but still the terms are very obscure.
Anyway also 1 minute is not acceptable for a commercial application,
and I have no means to know when
my application will reach that level of "reliability".

> Deploy/redeploy generally refers to uploading a new set of code to you
> instance.  I assume you mean
> starting a new instance.

yes I meant that

> I have never seen memcache data dropped that
> quickly unless you are pushing
> the limits of memcache allocation (up around 1GB).

1Gb of memcache? :)
I can post post logs, but really who cares? 10 sec. /1 min. /10 min.
We don't have any control, we don't know which level of service our
application will have. We started one year ago thinking that GAE was
only very young but things are going worse and worse.

> Google don't claim to be a 5 9's provider for appengine service.  But
> I think many people
> don't use the correct tool set, and don't try to understand how the
> platform really functions and
> how to take advantage of appengine.

Yes we are stupid.
We worked 1 year with Gae, 20kloc application with Gwt.
We though it could serve full size, professional applications.
We were wrong.

> You comments about your experience with memcache data purging and app
> recycling
> doesn't match what I have experienced nor what I observe others have
> experienced.

which size are your applications? how many users?
Probably for small applications with many users GAE is ok.

Anyway the biggest problem is not the recycling but times the site is
completely down. Since July I lost the count, impossible to think to
create a business on top of this.

Uberto

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