>
> GEO distribution as a reason for serving from the cloud is rendered void by
> the performance of the big players infrastructure.


Raw performance isn't the only relevant metric when it comes to geo
distribution. Legal jurisdiction is a huge factor for some, especially if
some government (the US) decides to seize domains or force infrastructure
providers to drop clients.

Lack of IaaS-vendor lock-in is another huge reason (the ability to switch
IaaS providers while still maintaining the same PaaS code).

As the article states, the current PaaS market tightly integrates
PaaS-provider and IaaS-provider. Decoupling this is a win-win-win situation
for developers/VCs/managers etc etc.


On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 3:53 PM, Brandon Wirtz <[email protected]> wrote:

> You ever raced GAE from brazil, against a Brazilian  hosting Provider? I
> was seeing latency differences of about 30ms.   GEO distribution as a reason
> for serving from the cloud is rendered void by the performance of the big
> players infrastructure.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *saidimu apale
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 19, 2011 9:59 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [google-appengine] Re: Startup Weekend and Google App
> Engine
>
>
>
> Here's a tantalizing prospect on the "advent of private PaaS" in a blog
> post by RightScale, on Cloud Foundry's potential. I am watching Cloud
> Foundry very closely, if it matures well (a big 'if') then I'm definitely
> jumping the GAE ship. The possibilities of choosing a PaaS provider *and* a
> IaaS provider are simply too attractive. Imagine running your GAE app on
> Amazon's IaaS, running on the exact-same GAE PaaS software.
>
>
>
> Good times ahead!
>
>
>
>
> http://blog.rightscale.com/2011/04/12/launch-vmwares-cloudfoundry-paas-using-rightscale/
>
> Until now the notion of PaaS has lumped together the author of the PaaS
> software and its operator. For example, Heroku developed its PaaS software
> and also offers it as a service. If you want to run your application on
> Heroku your only choice is to sign-up to their service and have them run
> your app. Google AppEngine has the same properties. All this is very nice
> and has many benefits, but it doesn’t fit all use-cases by a long shot. What
> if you need to run your app in Brazil but Heroku and your PaaS service
> doesn’t operate there? Or if you need to run your app within the corporate
> firewall? Or if you want to add some custom hooks to the PaaS software so
> you can punch out to custom services that are co-located with your app? All
> these options become a reality with Cloud Foundry because the PaaS software
> is developed as an open-source project. You can customize it and you can run
> it where you want to and how you want.
>
> Of course you can also go to a hosted Cloud Foundry service whenever you
> don’t want to be bothered running servers. This could be a public Cloud
> Foundry service that is in effect competing with Heroku, AppEngine and
> others, but it could also be a private service offered by IT or your
> friendly devops team mate. This opens the possibilities for departmental
> PaaS services that may have a relatively small scale and can be tailored for
> the specific needs of their users.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 3:20 PM, Jeff Schnitzer <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 11:53 PM, Brandon Wirtz <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > To be fair... It's more like the partner in the restaurant saying, you
> have
> > to use Canola oil, instead of Peanut Oil because we think there is less
> > risk.  So your fries won't taste as good, we're fronting the money, so
> you
> > do it our way.
>
> To draw out that analogy a little farther, we'd have to add the fact
> that you're also a MD-PhD who spent the last 10 years researching
> heart disease, and the partner is someone who has read a few articles
> on the Huffington Post.
>
> :-)
>
> Jeff
>
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