The worst part is the present uncertainty. * How many instances will I need to service N requests per second? * Will that number change significantly because of things out of my control like running on a hot server? * What datastore operations will cost how much?
I'm not surprised by a price increase - hell, I'm surprised it took this long to materialize. I don't love the new structure though, it seems harder than ever to figure out what my application is going to cost. I would personally rather that Google kept the pay-for-cpu-ms approach (even if it's largely a bunch of magic numbers) and just increase the price to whatever is "sustainable". I *am* a little worried about Google pricing themselves out of the (read: my) market. Presumably they want to capture as much revenue as possible from the folks with high monetization-per-request traffic like Best Buy and WebFiling, but there is no longer a separate "App Engine for Business" offering to segment the market. If GAE is priced efficiently (in a purely economic sense), it could very well be too high to accomodate those of us squeaking by with freemium or advertising-based businesses. This is somewhat ironic since one of the things that makes GAE great is that it scales out to "fad facebook app of the week" traffic so easily. I fear that there isn't enough competitive pressure on the price - Google really could charge whatever the market will bear, and some parts of the market will probably be willing to bear quite a lot. Unfortunately nobody else has a PaaS product that comes even close to measuring up. My sincere hope is that Amazon makes Elastic Beanstalk a much better product than it currently is, not because I want to use it, but because I want Google to feel less certain that they can charge a premium rate. (Sorry Google, I hope we can still be friends) Incidentally, I migrated off of GAE Backends (formerly "servers") post-beta because the announced price is 6X (that's s-i-x) the comparable equivalent from Amazon or Rackspace. I don't have a strategy for migrating off GAE Frontends because there is no comparable equivalent anywhere :-( Jeff On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Brandon Wirtz <[email protected]> wrote: > I banked on everything costing 50-100% more. (1.5-2x) that’s what “Beta” > kind of means. I currently trust that Google won’t price themselves out of > the market, and GAE will be on par with EC2/AWS or Rackspace Cloud. But I > expect that with GAE there will be less hands on knowledge of the operating > environment needed so at same pricing I can win on administration costs. > > > > > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Raymond C. > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 10:56 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [google-appengine] Anyone happy with the new pricing? > > > > I believe everyone who have been using GAE for their business have been > using it because we have faint on Google that Google will make it a great > service for us. > > > > Not much people complained about the HR new pricing because we had a choice > to stay at the current one. > > Now the pricing is going to go up for a few times to what we have been > paying and we DONT have a choice. We used to care about our code only to > make it consume as few CPU as possible. Now we are going to calculate how > to minimize the cost without angering our consumer for having not enough > instances. > > > > We chose to lockup ourself within the GAE infra-struture in the past because > we believed in Google. Now what we get in return? > > > > (I still love the GAE team but sorry, I am really disappointed about the new > pricing before Google can show us how good it is for us.) > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
