Or put it another way, the actual "instance" is a very small part of the
overall infrastructure.

Static files are not served off your instance (on a VPS they would use CPU
cycles, or need a separate VPS/CDN  etc)

Other capabilities, like image manipulation apis, and memcache etc, are
using CPU/memory outside your instance. On a VPS, would need to dedicate
some of your instances (or another VPS) memory to hold memcache items.

To to provide all the capabilities, that your one little instance can do on
GAE, may* well need a substantially larger VPS. Maybe one that costs $0.35
an hour. Or more realistically a larger number of VPSs.


* say may, as we dont yet know what the full capabilities of the new
instances will be.

Which in fact shows another issue, all these comparisons are based on
speculation (I've used a bit of speculation above in how they work) - its
not really fair to compare pricing based on speculation ;)


On 30 May 2011 01:27, Barry Hunter <[email protected]> wrote:

> For what it worth, I dont think it fair to compare a GAE instance like for
> like to a VPS.
>
> they are very different 'beasts'. GAE in theory provides you much more.
> Google handle all the setup, configuration, provisioning, load balancing.
>
> Granted it does seem expensive, if you only using equivient of one VPS. But
> once you start need to manage multiple VPSs, provision load-balancers,
> re-provision in case of failure etc, make backups. All that happens
> 'magicically' with GAE.
>
> Dont forget you also get a free quota of instance hours too.
>
>
>
> On 30 May 2011 01:06, Ugorji <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The other threads don't address this in isolation. I'm hoping Greg can
>> address this in his updated document.
>>
>> *On-demand pricing (using 1.2 GHz processor for baseline compute):*
>>
>> GAE Frontend: 128MB RAM, 1.2 GHz processor ... cost 0.08cents/IH
>> GAE Backend: 256MB RAM, 1.2 GHz processor ... costs 0.16cents/IH
>>
>> *Compare With:*
>> Amazon EC2 micro instance: 613MB RAM, ~1.2 GHz processor (burst to
>> ~2.4GHz).
>> --> COST: 0.02cents/IH
>> --> SUMMARY: GAE costs 4X on front end with 1/4 RAM, and 8X on backend,
>> with 1/2 RAM
>> 1and1 DEDICATED server: 2 X 2.2 GHz CPU, 2GB RAM.
>> --> COST: $60/month (roughly 0.08cents/IH)
>> --> SUMMARY: GAE provides 1/8 RAM and 1/4 CPU for equal pricing
>>
>> *Closing*
>> It's hard to understand or justify how the hosting prices can jump so
>> aggressively that they are not even close to being competitive against other
>> established players (like Amazon). It feels atypical of what we would expect
>> from Google.
>>
>> ** Note that this comparison is just for the hosting prices. This is fair
>> since the APIs are charged separately (so are not compared here).
>>
>> *References:*
>> http://www.google.com/enterprise/appengine/appengine_pricing.html
>> http://order.1and1.com/xml/order/ServerPremiumDualCoreM
>> http://www.rackspace.com/cloud/cloud_hosting_products/servers/pricing/
>> http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/instance-types/
>> http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/
>>
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