Dang, I was four hours late to the party.  I wanted to mention that
we'd already beat that horse.






On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 20:06, Ikai Lan (Google) <[email protected]> wrote:
> You're about two days late to the party. Read the earlier comments in this
> thread ...
> Ikai Lan
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> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 7:23 AM, Andrei <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Here is another piece of info from guy who worked 10 years for Google
>> http://rethrick.com/#waving-goodbye
>>
>> And this relates to GAE
>>
>> Speed
>>
>> Here is something you've may have heard but never quite believed
>> before: Google's vaunted scalable software infrastructure is obsolete.
>> Don't get me wrong, their hardware and datacenters are the best in the
>> world, and as far as I know, nobody is close to matching it. But the
>> software stack on top of it is 10 years old, aging and designed for
>> building search engines and crawlers. And it is well and truly
>> obsolete.
>>
>> Protocol Buffers, BigTable and MapReduce are ancient, creaking
>> dinosaurs compared to MessagePack, JSON, and Hadoop. And new projects
>> like GWT, Closure and MegaStore are sluggish, overengineered
>> Leviathans compared to fast, elegant tools like jQuery and mongoDB.
>> Designed by engineers in a vacuum, rather than by developers who have
>> need of tools.
>>
>> In the short time I've been outside Google I've created entire apps in
>> Java in the space of a single workday. (Yes, you can program as
>> quickly in Java as in Ruby or Python, if you understand your tools
>> well.) I've gotten prototypes off the ground, shown it to people, or
>> deployed them with hardly any barriers.
>>
>> On Jun 7, 9:59 am, Joshua Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/07/inside_google_app_engine/
>> >
>> > Nice overview, and I didn't see any glaring errors.  I'll be keeping a
>> > link to this to pass along whenever anyone asks me what GAE is (and isn't).
>> >  An interesting observation was that many apps spill into non-GAE
>> > infrastructure when they need some functionality that GAE doesn't offer.
>> >  That's true of several of our apps: one of my apps interfaces with S3
>> > heavily because I wrote it before BlobStore existed; another uses GAE only
>> > as a massively scalable front-end "lobby" and scheduler, for access to
>> > non-GAE servers (in a private data center, and in EC2 when the private data
>> > center fills up).
>> >
>> > Also, it was interesting to see the coverage of App Scale.  I was
>> > familiar with AETyphoon, but not App Scale.  Nice to know there are options
>> > if google makes some really bad decisions about their pricing model in the
>> > coming months.
>> >
>> > -Joshua
>>
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