Support for a system with 100 users and 100k users is about the same.  No
one bills for support separately (Fine GAE bills $500) so the small guys pay
more to cover support and administration.


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From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of zdravko
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 3:32 PM
To: Google App Engine
Subject: [google-appengine] Re: The price of Scalability

This price of scalability is an interesting animal.  Looking at AWS (for an
example) transfer out bandwidth charges alone, the lowest and most expensive
usage bracket is full 6x (SIX TIMES) more expensive then the highest and
least expensive bracket.  Considering that it's just bandwidth and that it
considers the least amount of "effort" to dissect and repackage into smaller
doses, it is quite clear how much us little guys are subsidization the big
boys.

Was the whole idea of volume buying not based on a  premise of "economies of
scale" ?  Using delivery of physical goods as an example, was it all not
supposed to be based on the premise that delivering a truck load of
something is lot more economical then delivering a single pallet or a single
book of matches?  If so, then what is it about bandwidth that makes it SIX
TIMES more expensive to deliver to us smaller guys?

Are these sorts of pricing discounts in fact not the world's biggest price
collusions and price fixing?  How can the little guy ever manage to compete
when it has to forever keep on subsidizing the big boys?
Where would the big conglomates ever be and what would really their bottom
lines look like if they had to pay their fare share?

When it comes to bandwidth, I can not image a price differential that is
more than TWICE - between the smallest and the biggest bandwidth users?

ARE WE THE ONES WHO ARE MAKING FINANCIALLY VIABLE USAGE MONSTERS SUCH AS
WWW.YOUTUBE.COM ?!?



On Jul 3, 8:27 am, Tony <[email protected]> wrote:
> I just read this 
> posthttp://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~silver/gae.html
>
> The author seems unhappy with App Engine's offerings and have switched 
> to EC2, saying when the app scales big, the cost is very high (he used 
> the old Master/Slave datastore with high latency counted against CPU
time).
>
> I myself like app engine a lot because from what I heard it offers 
> good scalability without complex setup and maintenance. But I don't 
> have much experience with it to say if the claims in the above post are
true.
> Especially now there are changes in pricing, I'm afraid the costs may 
> be driven a lot higher.
>
> Can anyone who is having a popular app on app engine give me your 
> thoughts on the post? Do you see the new pricing scheme make scaling 
> app a lot more expensive?

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