Hello,

Yes, this limit applies to entity groups.

1. Entity Kind != entity group
2. "No entity group parent" means an entity is its own entity group root

The pitfalls here revolve around consistency guarantees. Check out these
slides I did that describe the differences in consistency guarantees:

http://www.slideshare.net/ikailan/2011-julygtughighreplicationdatastore

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On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 2:06 PM, App Engine Group <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Kenneth,
>
> There are a few good articles about writing scalable applications for
> google app engine:
> http://code.google.com/appengine/articles/scaling/overview.html
>
> An example that might help:
> http://code.google.com/appengine/articles/sharding_counters.html
>
> - Wen
>
>
> On Aug 5, 7:51 am, Kenneth <[email protected]> wrote:
> > There's a lot of good information bubbling out about the pitfalls of
> moving
> > from from ms to hr, especially the problems with keys having your appid
> in
> > them.  Apologies if this question has come up before.
> >
> > Like most others I suspect, 99% of my datastore objects don't have
> parents.
> > Since these are all in the same root entity group I'm now limited to 1-10
> > writes per second to all of these objects if I don't reparent, according
> tohttp://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/hr/overview.ht...
> >
> > If my write rate does climb above 10/s I assume that I'm going to block?
> >
> > What is the strategy here?  I can see making up something random as the
> > parent, but then I need that random thing to do a get_by_id since that's
> > what I do in most of my app, only passing the id to the user rather than
> the
> > whole key (which you are not supposed to pass to the user because it is a
> > security issue if you're using namespace).  Am I screwed?
> >
> > This is of course leaving the whole issue of consistency aside, I'm ok
> with
> > that side of things, more or less.
> >
> > Thanks.
>
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