On Sep 2, 2011, at 11:10 AM, Barry Hunter wrote:

> Dont you get one instance (well two until multi-threading) free? - so
> you can have a dynamic instance always loaded. (ie you get 24 instance
> hours free a day)

You don't get 2 until multi-threading.  You get one.  They are just reducing 
the price of the second one.

And under the new system any $ > 0 = $108 / year

Hey google overlords: How about instead of charging half for the pre-2.7 
period, you bump the free quota to 48 hours until 2.7 comes out?  I bet that 
will eliminate a lot of the kvetching here from the used-to-be-free crowd.  
(And charging half until November didn't seem to ameliorate the angst of the 
$Ks/mo crowd anyway.)

> 
> So providing what you want can be served by this instance, you dont
> have any (instance) changes.

If two users happen to hit the site at around the same time, I'm pretty much 
guaranteed to get > 1 instance.  With one running 24/7, there is no room to 
handle this bump.

(Plus, there are the scheduler bugs everyone is reporting, which drive up the 
instance count even more.)

> 
> As for saving the file, you could put it in the blobstore. The handler
> to serves the send_blob should be very quick and not tie up the
> instance for long.

How long doesn't matter.  I need the instance to be untouched by the kiosks, to 
avoid the 24/7 life thing.

> 
> Or Google Storage for developers (G's answer to S3) - that avoids the
> instance totally.
> 

I'll have to look into that.  I have a lot more experience with S3, but if 
there is a nice GAE/GS bridge, perhaps that would work for me...

> You might have to optimize the code around user-interaction requests,
> to make sure again they stay on the single instance. But set a high
> minimum latency, and that shouldnt be an issue
> 
> 
> (or i've missed something)

I don't think it's really possible to get GAE to only serve with one instance.  
It's just not in the nature of the scheduler algorithm.

And in my case, I really don't need it to.  Here are the stats for the most 
recent month (only counting humans):



That should easily fit under the quotas, even if it has to spin up a bunch of 
instances for each human.

But only if I get the Kiosks to stop burning all my quota.

I'll look into GS for Developers…

-Joshua

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