The Max Idle instances slider help text states:

*You will not be charged for instances over the specified maximum*

So if you are, it is a billing bug and you should ask a refund.

Feel free to a production issue with your application id if you want
us to track the instance inconsistencies for your application:
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/entry?template=Production%20issue

I would also suggest to fill a feature request for faster billing
preview/reporting:
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/entry?template=Feature%20request

Hope that helps.

On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Millisecond <[email protected]> wrote:
> I agree that we shouldn't be, it just seems that we are.
>
> I'll just have to wait for more days to show up in Billing History
> where I have screenshots of the dashboard available to compare
> against.
>
> Frustrating to have to wait 5 days to see what something is going to
> be billed at.  We have basically 2 cycles to make changes and see the
> effects before billing goes into effect and the two things biting us
> are instance-hours and datastore writes.  One is totally opaque and
> the other appears to be inconsistently reported in the live graphs
> (right now I have "20 Total" in text, 35 total / 12 active in the
> graph).
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 5, 3:40 pm, Johan Euphrosine <[email protected]> wrote:
>> You should never be charged for more than: Active Instance + Max Idle
>> instances, even if the scheduler keeps more than Max Idle instances
>> around.
>>
>> Setting Min-Pending-Latency to 60ms instruct the scheduler to wait at
>> least 60ms if all the instances are busy before deciding to spawn a
>> new instance for handling an incoming request.
>>
>> You can maximize existing instance usage over new instance creation by
>> increasing that value, but this could come at the expense of
>> increasing request latency.
>>
>> Hope that helps.
>>
>>
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>>
>> On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Millisecond <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > It looks like we are being charged at the higher rate of 30-35
>> > instance hours / hour even though only ~10 are active at a time and
>> > max-idle is set to 5.  Although it's still hard to tell as we're
>> > behind ~5 days in billing history summaries.
>>
>> > Is the current scheduler going to be changed before new-billing is
>> > implemented?  Seems like a must.
>>
>> > On Sep 1, 4:48 pm, Millisecond <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> The table at the top of the dashboard is showing 23 active instances,
>> >> QPS of 2.6 and a latency of 481ms.  Which makes some sense as I'm
>> >> hovering between 40 and 80 QPS overall.
>>
>> >> I've set the scheduler to have max 5 idle instances and the min
>> >> latency to 60ms, but when I pull down the graph to the "Instances"
>> >> display, it has me hovering between ~5 and ~12 active and 30-35
>> >> total.
>>
>> >> Is the graph just not accurate and we're billed for what's in the text
>> >> area?  Are we charged for active instances or total instances or
>> >> instances in the text area?  Why isn't it more-or-less "active + 5 as
>> >> max = total"?
>>
>> >> With a 3-4 day delay on my billing history reporting, this is going to
>> >> be very hard to tweak if I can't see correct numbers on the dashboard.
>>
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