Gregory,

I just want to let you guys know that I love app engine and my app
does not need major scalability, and never will.  However I like app
engine or reasons OTHER than scalability.  I like the ease of use,
essentially the PAaS aspect. I love the gae apis available.  I love
the dashboard.  I have grown to love the datastore, and especially
db.py.  I love the deployment system, etc.

So what I am saying is I love app engine for all my projects, big and
small.  I will never have 20TB of data, with 600 instances spun up and
millions of requests.  I find it hard to believe that so many people
do.  But I love app engine much better than EC2 so please remember us
small guys when you are making your pricing schemes up.

On Sep 5, 3:00 pm, "Gregory D'alesandre" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Sasha,
>
> It is indeed more expensive to run App Engine than the alternatives you
> mentioned for a few reasons:
> - We have a lot of infrastructure built out around the core machines that we
> don't charge for specifically but are included in the price of what you pay
> for (the request queue, the scheduler, all of the free APIs, etc)
> - It is a fully support service meaning there are people who keep it running
> 24 hours a day, even when something goes wrong in a datacenter (which will
> happen at some point) we ensure it is not up to you to fix it.
>
> There have been a number of posts to the list about people running really
> small services that could fit on a single EC2 micro-instance, if what you
> are running can fit on that, and you never expect to scale past that, EC2
> will likely be cheaper.  But part of what you are getting with App Engine is
> the ability to scale when you need to without having to completely
> re-architect your app and without having to wake up if it happens in the
> middle of the night to figure out how much capacity you need.  Frankly
> though, even on small apps, EC2 might not be cheaper if you have an app that
> gets very little traffic as App Engine apps under the free quota are free
> indefinitely whereas I don't believe any other service offers free capacity
> indefinitely.
>
> Hope that helps explain it,
>
> Greg
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> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 5:27 AM, Sasha Hart <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Sep 2, 2:08 am, keakon lolicon <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I wish I was the one who made a wrong decision.
>
> > Ouch.
>
> > It is sad that the billing changes seem to price a ton of
> > international customers out of the market.
>
> > I wonder if recent events mean that the App Engine model (for lack of
> > a more precise term - here I mean the technology, not the business) is
> > just inherently much more costly than alternative models (like typical
> > VPS or EC2). Does the price reflect additional technological overhead?
> > Could others make changes to the model to run a similar service more
> > cheaply?
>
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