On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 18:14, Brandon Wirtz <[email protected]> wrote:
> Max Idle instances seems to have very, very little effect. **** > > ** ** > > Scheduler seems to be broken, or optimized for different parameters. From > what I am seeing I think I went from being billed basically only for API > calls, to being billed API calls plus the Time the Instance waits on those > calls. > I think that is exactly correct. > **** > > ** ** > > I also thing that Google Bot comes through spins up 100s of instances in 3 > minutes and I pay for those for the next 15.**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jon McAlister > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 07, 2011 1:56 PM > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [google-appengine] Why I will Likely Be Leaving GAE (30x > increase in Price)**** > > ** ** > > What's the projected bill like now that you've set max-idle-instances?**** > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Brandon Wirtz <[email protected]> > wrote:**** > > As many of you know, I am strong supporter of the GAE Community. I was an > Early Adopter, and I have defended many of the decisions Google has made. I > think the GAE Team is great, but I am loyal first and fore-most to my piggy > bank.**** > > **** > > I have 100s of small apps running CDN In A Box. And they are all seeing > similar price increase at about 15x through November, and then when the 50% > discount on FrontEnd, goes away this app will go from $1.49 to $42. One of > the smaller clients will be going from .26 cents per week to 15.24 > Pre-November, $28 Post. That is over 100x increase in pricing. **** > > **** > > When Google Announced the pricing change they assured me that the numbers I > predicted in, increased cost would not be the 15x that I had predicted. So > I have waited patiently. But it appears that all of the small clients I have > brought to GAE are going to be moving to Azure, unless something changes in > the very, very near term.**** > > **** > > My Business model is built around the people who want $20-100 a month > services that I mark up 50-70% If I sell a $20 plan that used to cost $1 > and suddenly costs me $28 Things won’t quite work out. I had planned for a > 8-10x increase, but there is no head room on a 15-30x increase.**** > > **** > > *Resource***** > > *Used***** > > *Free***** > > *Billable***** > > *Charge***** > > *CPU Time:* > $0.10/CPU hour**** > > 13.93**** > > 6.50**** > > 7.43**** > > $0.75**** > > *Bandwidth Out:* > $0.12/GByte**** > > 4.28**** > > 1.00**** > > 3.28**** > > $0.40**** > > *Bandwidth In:* > $0.10/GByte**** > > 3.35**** > > 1.00**** > > 2.35**** > > $0.24**** > > *Stored Data:* > $0.005/GByte-day**** > > 0.00**** > > 1.00**** > > 0.00**** > > $0.00**** > > *Recipients Emailed:* > $0.10/1000 Emails**** > > 0.00**** > > 2.00**** > > 0.00**** > > $0.00**** > > *High Replication Storage:* > $0.008/GByte-day**** > > 12.55**** > > 0.50**** > > 12.05**** > > $0.10**** > > *Backend Usage:* > Prices<http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/billing.html#Billable_Quota_Unit_Cost> > **** > > $0.00**** > > $0.72**** > > $0.00**** > > $0.00**** > > *Always On:* > $0.30/Day**** > > No**** > > -**** > > -**** > > $0.00**** > > *Total:***** > > $1.49**** > Estimated Charges Under New Pricing**** > > The charges below are estimates of what you would be paying once App > Engine's new pricing > model<http://www.google.com/enterprise/cloud/appengine/pricing.html> goes > live. The amounts shown below are for your information only, they are not > being charged and therefore do not affect your balance. > > If you would like to optmize your application to reduce your costs in the > future, make sure to read our Optimization > Article<http://code.google.com/appengine/articles/managing-resources.html>. > If you have any additional questions or concerns, please contact us at: > [email protected].**** > > Frontend Instance Hour costs reflect a 50% price reduction active until > November 20th, 2011.**** > > *Resource***** > > *Used***** > > *Free***** > > *Billable***** > > *Charge***** > > *Frontend Instance Hours:* > $0.04/Hour**** > > 513.39**** > > 24.00**** > > 489.39**** > > $19.58**** > > *Backend Instance Hours:* > $0.08/Hour**** > > 0.00**** > > 9.00**** > > 0.00**** > > $0.00**** > > *Datastore Storage:* > $0.008/GByte-day**** > > 12.55**** > > 1.00**** > > 11.55**** > > $0.10**** > > *Blobstore Storage:* > $0.0057/GByte-day**** > > 0.00**** > > 5.00**** > > 0.00**** > > $0.00**** > > *Datastore Writes:* > $1.00/Million Ops**** > > 0.94**** > > 0.05**** > > 0.89**** > > $0.89**** > > *Datastore Reads:* > $0.70/Million Ops**** > > 0.18**** > > 0.05**** > > 0.13**** > > $0.10**** > > *Small Datastore Operations:* > $0.10/Million Ops**** > > 0.00**** > > 0.05**** > > 0.00**** > > $0.00**** > > *Bandwidth In:* > $0.10/GByte**** > > 3.35**** > > 1.00**** > > 2.35**** > > $0.24**** > > *Bandwidth Out:* > $0.15/GByte**** > > 4.28**** > > 1.00**** > > 3.28**** > > $0.50**** > > *Emails:* > $0.01/100 Messages**** > > 0.00**** > > 1.00**** > > 0.00**** > > $0.00**** > > *XMPP Stanzas:* > $0.01/1000 Stanzas**** > > 0.00**** > > 1.00**** > > 0.00**** > > $0.00**** > > *Opened Channels:* > $0.01/100 Opens**** > > 0.00**** > > 1.00**** > > 0.00**** > > $0.00**** > > *Total*:* (before clipping to daily budget)**** > > $21.41**** > > **** > > *Brandon Wirtz > *LockerGnome.com: Corporate VP Business Strategy > BlackWaterOps: President / Lead Mercenary **** > > [image: Description: > http://www.linkedin.com/img/signature/bg_slate_385x42.jpg]**** > > *Work:* 510-992-6548 > *Toll Free:* 866-400-4536 **** > > *IM:* [email protected] (Google Talk) > *Skype:* drakegreene **** > > Lockergnome.com <http://www.lockergnome.com> > BlackWater Ops > <http://www.blackwaterops.com>**** > > **** > > **** > > **** > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.**** > > ** ** > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.**** > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. 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