Hi Brandon,

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Brandon Wirtz <[email protected]> wrote:

> I may have explained poorly…****
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> It isn’t that the App needs the logins, it’s that all of the personal
> accounts become Managed accounts, Every one of the users would go through
> the “Migration” on their Google Voice, Google Plus, Picasa, etc.****
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> The worry of the school is that the pic of a 12 year old girl in her
> underwear posted to picasa goes from being “owned” by the personal account,
> to being owned by an organizational account.****
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>
> Also every time a user forgets their password, they go from doing support
> through Google, to support through the administrator.  That’s a lot of
> overhead on a bunch of students.****
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> This is not a big deal for me, the client isn’t going to pay me enough that
> I care, but I though they raised some good points that I wanted to share.*
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There's no need to migrate any accounts at all. Your app can accept signins
from any Google account, not just those on an Apps domain.

-Nick Johnson

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> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Nick Johnson
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 29, 2011 11:14 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [google-appengine] More Apps For Domains "getting in the
> way" stuff****
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> Hi Brandon,****
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> What you describe isn't compatible with the current configuration. Simply
> set up Google Apps on the domain solely to associate the domain name with
> the App Engine app, and configure the app to accept logins from any Google
> Account. There's no need to create accounts for users of the app on the
> domain.****
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> -Nick Johnson****
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> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Brandon Wirtz <[email protected]>
> wrote:****
>
> I ranted once before about the issues Apps For Domains created for my
> Adwords account with the unified login, but I have a new rant from a
> potential customer… ****
>
>  ****
>
> They currently use exchange mail and Group policy objects. They don’t want
> to be responsible, for these student accounts Documents, Messenger, Google+
> etc. They quite specifically want those to be personal accounts, so that
> they don’t have any potential liability for how students use those accounts.
> ****
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>  ****
>
> In my view this makes for a pretty good case of why not to require GAE to
> be tied to Apps For Domains.  Not just in my app, but in any org that would
> decide the wanted an app on their domain but the email addresses they
> provide are not employees, or there are so many of them they wouldn’t want
> to administer them through AFD (which is not designed for administering 100k
> people.****
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>  ****
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> I know BestBuy and some other large Orgs are on GAE, are they using
> AppsForDomains? Are they running on their primary domain?****
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