FWIW, the Maps API is one of the better APIs at Google.

Jeff

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Joshua Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> The point of the "leaked" rant was that Amazon does run on the same platform 
> infrastructure they sell (not EC2 exactly, but generally speaking); and MS 
> does, too (not Azure, but Windows Servers and such).
>
> Google has exposed a platform interface in GAE which is a good candidate to 
> be the "platform" that google is missing, strategically. I wouldn't argue 
> that it would be the right way to deploy the Maps API today. But I would 
> argue that by making it the right way to deploy the Maps API, they will 
> create something much more wonderful for all of us to use.
>
> Google already obfuscates the hardware under their product implementations, 
> I'm sure.  But they're using the "people food" version.  We're stuck with the 
> "dog food" version.  (read the rant if that sentence doesn't mean anything to 
> you)
>
> Exposing the people food they have today to outsiders is not realistic. But 
> bringing the quality of the dog food up to the quality people expect is 
> realistic. And using the public platform internally to build products is the 
> way Amazon got there.
>
> On Oct 13, 2011, at 1:53 PM, Brandon Wirtz wrote:
>
>> Josh,
>>
>> I sure hope the Googlers on this list don't take your advice, I'd like them
>> to continue to have employment for a while, and doing as you say might end
>> that.
>>
>> Amazon doesn't run on EC2, Microsoft doesn't run on Azure.  Cloud computing
>> is NOT for Super Enterprise.  It is for those still looking to scale and
>> grow. Those who don't want to deal with infrastructure. But if you are truly
>> building the Fastest, Most Reliable, Biggest tools, the obfuscation of the
>> hardware is a bad thing.
>>
>> It is like me going to the race track. I'm amateur, I take my Spec Mini
>> cooper and I run. Sometimes I rent a Lotus. That rental is a great deal for
>> me, but I can't tune it to my preferences.  It is faster than my Mini, it is
>> well maintained, but compared to what it could do if I owned it, it is slow
>> and limiting.
>>
>> Google does run some projects on GAE, Microsoft runs some projects on Azure.
>> Certainly the lessons learned from these platforms goes back to other
>> projects, but you don't put all of your eggs in one basket.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [email protected]
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joshua Smith
>> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 8:00 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Cc: Peter Magnusson; Gregory D'alesandre
>> Subject: [google-appengine] Here's your platform...
>>
>> I'm sure you've all seen this by now:
>>
>> http://siliconfilter.com/google-engineer-google-is-a-prime-example-of-our-co
>> mplete-failure-to-understand-platforms/
>>
>> (skip the blog entry and go right down to the actual posting at the bottom).
>>
>> As I read it, it struck me that GAE totally IS a platform. And it struck me
>> how much more awesome GAE would be if maps, and docs, and charts, and
>> everything else was written on it.
>>
>> So my advice to you Peter and Gregory is to march into
>> whoever's-in-charge-these-day's office and say: "He's right. And here's how
>> to fix it: Require that from this moment forward EVERY product (except
>> search) google offers MUST be built on GAE."
>>
>> GAE would increase in awesomeness by 1000 fold, because your peers in google
>> would demand that it does.
>>
>> -Joshua
>>
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