We would like to add an indication of your current uptime (as defined in
the SLA http://code.google.com/appengine/sla.html) but it is going to take
some time to make that happen.

Greg

On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 5:05 AM, Will <[email protected]> wrote:

> Same measure as Google uses for the 'entire system' uptime.
>
> If there is a will to know, there is a way to know. Just as GAE can
> measure every application's datastore read/write/small op numbers and every
> instance usage down to minute.
>
> Otherwise, why bother to put 99.95% in EULA?
>
> Will
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Brandon Wirtz <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> How would it know?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> And which measure do you use?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Say I’m down to all users on AOL because Google suffered a DNS poisoning
>> attack, Which has happened once before.  Am I down? ****
>>
>>
>> Google has DataStore Write locked (like happens on MS) my app handles
>> that, but I bet yours doesn’t. Am I down? Are You?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Pre-Processing Latency rises to 20 seconds, so all requests that take
>> more than 40s to complete fail. Is the service down?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> All processes take 50% longer than they did previously, now all requests
>> that took 40s fail, and apps using a max idle/ min latency setting fail 20%
>> of the time Is the Service 100% down? 50% down? 20% down?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I now have edge cache handling 40% of all my requests… So even if all GAE
>> is down I’m 40% up, does that mean that 99.1% = 99.5% ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> My Uptime monitoring “Internally” polls every 20 seconds and uses a
>> random number in the query as a cache buster to prevent the cache giving a
>> false up, but the request is also optimized to not put load on the system
>> so I don’t know if something like all reads from memcache return null.***
>> *
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> SLA’s are worth about as much as the HTML they are written on.  You
>> either trust that the company will be up, or you don’t.   Amazon’s week of
>> down time means they are 200 weeks from 99.5% uptime.  And I’d rather have
>> my week of down time spread out in 5 minute increments over 4 years than
>> getting it all at once.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Will
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 21, 2011 5:19 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* [google-appengine] uptime statistics for each HRD application*
>> ***
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> An uptime statistics report for each HRD application seems in order, just
>> like usage reports for each app.****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Since every app is paying for its own guaranteed uptime, with individual
>> report, we won't get into this "although your app is broken for this short
>> period time, the system as a whole functions as expected" mess...****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Thoughts?****
>>
>>  ****
>>
>> Will****
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