I mentioned that. I'll get my video up later today or tomorrow.    
 
The GAE terms are fine, the as presented for some of the other Google
products that I don't think anyone thought about kind of sucks. Feedburner
for example,  I don't want Google creating derivative works of my full
content RSS feeds, or the images that might be in them.
 
There are some other examples. I have a couple of pings out to other groups
in Google that I want to get back before I publish it though. Biting the
hand that feeds me, I prefer to make sure I get the story straight.
 
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gregory D'alesandre
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 5:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [google-appengine] New google terms of service and the content
clause
 
I can't speak for code.google.com but I can speak for App Engine.  Our Terms
of Service has this clause
 
"1.2 From Customer to Google. By submitting, posting or displaying any
Application (including Customer Content) on or through the Service, Customer
gives Google a worldwide, non-sublicensable, non-transferable,
non-exclusive, terminable, limited license to reproduce, adapt, modify,
translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any
Application (including Customer Content) for the sole purpose of enabling
Google to provide Customer with the Service in accordance with the
Agreement."
 
The key words in that statement is "for the sole purpose of enabling Google
to provide Customer with the Service".
 
I hope that helps,
 
Greg D'Alesandre
Senior Product Manager, Google App Engine  
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 2:49 PM, Brandon Wirtz <[email protected]> wrote:
I just shot a video about this and a few other clauses in the new TOS that I
don't like.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rubin
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 12:54 AM
To: Google App Engine
Subject: [google-appengine] New google terms of service and the content
clause

Hi all,

I got directed to this group by the Google Help page. I want to ask
something with regards to the use of the Google Code service (I just read
the new terms of service and was pleased to read something readable. A rare
event when it comes to terms of service and privacy statements).

So I wonder if someone can clarify something for me. There's a clause called
"Your Content in our Services" which contains the following
statement:

"Some of our Services allow you to submit content. You retain ownership of
any intellectual property rights that you hold in that content. In short,
what belongs to you stays yours. When you upload or otherwise submit content
to our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide
license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works
(such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes we
make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate,
publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content. The
rights you grant in this license are for the limited purpose of operating,
promoting, and improving our Services, and to develop new ones. [..]"

My question is: Does this apply to "Content" (ie. code) hosted on Google
Code? I understand I own the code, but does this clause mean that, whatever
I licence the code under, Google can use it as it sees fit?

Kind regards + thanks in advance for any insights.


Rubin

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