In my case, since I was getting the 20-second delay almost 100% of the
time, setting countdown=1 was the answer.  If you only see it happen
every 20 or more request then of course it won't help.

In my case I also run all tasks on the backend. They're slightly more
expensive per hour than frontends (due merely to the lower number of
free hours) but in my case I more than make up for it with the fact
that I have full control on the number of requests that will spin up,
and I need to be able to control that number separately for tasks vs.
users hitting my site.

On Feb 5, 11:24 am, Carter <[email protected]> wrote:
> We regularly but erratically see 10-20 minute delays in running push
> queue tasks.
> The tasks sit in the queue with ETA as high as 20 minutes *ago*
> without any errors or retries.
>
> (the problem seems unrelated to queue settings since our Maximum Rate,
> Enorced Rate and Maximum Concurrent all far exceed the queue's
> throughput at the time of the delays)
>
> Any tips or clues on how to prevent this while still using push queues
> without backends?
>
> On Feb 1, 9:03 pm, Robert Kluin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hey Dave,
> >   Hopefully Nick will be able to offer some insight into the cause of
> > your issues.  I'd guess it is something related to having very few
> > tasks (one) in thequeue, and it not getting scheduled rapidly.
>
> >   In your case, you could use pull queues to immediately fetch the
> > nexttaskwhen finished with atask.  Or even to fetch multiple tasks
> > and do the work in parallel.  Basically you'd have a backend that ran
> > a loop (possibly initiated via a pushtask) that would lease atask,
> > or tasks, from the pullqueue, do the work, delete those tasks, then
> > repeat from the lease stage.  The cool thing is that if you're, for
> > example, using URL Fetch to pull data  this might let you do it in
> > parallel without increasing your costs much (if any).
>
> > Robert
>
> > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 14:25, Dave Loomer <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Here are logs from three consecutivetaskexecutions over the past weekend,
> > > with only identifying information removed. You'll see that eachtask
> > > completes in a few milliseconds, but are 20 seconds apart (remember: I've
> > > already checked myqueueconfigurations, nothing else is running on this
> > > backend, and I later solved the problem by setting countdown=1 when adding
> > > thetask).  I don't see any pending latency mentioned.
>
> > > 0.1.0.2 - - [27/Jan/2012:18:33:20 -0800] 200 124 ms=10 cpu_ms=47
> > > api_cpu_ms=0 cpm_usd=0.000060 queue_name=overnight-tasks
> > > task_name=15804554889304913211 instance=0
> > > 0.1.0.2 - - [27/Jan/2012:18:33:00 -0800] 200 124 ms=11 cpu_ms=0 
> > > api_cpu_ms=0
> > > cpm_usd=0.000060 queue_name=overnight-tasks task_name=15804554889304912461
> > > instance=0
> > > 0.1.0.2 - - [27/Jan/2012:18:32:41 -0800] 200 124 ms=26 cpu_ms=0 
> > > api_cpu_ms=0
> > > cpm_usd=0.000060 queue_name=overnight-tasks task_name=4499136807998063691
> > > instance=0
>
> > > The 20 seconds seems to happen regardless of length oftask. Even though my
> > > tasks mostly complete in a couple minutes, I do have cases where they take
> > > several minutes, and I don't see a difference. Of course, when atasktakes
> > > 5-10 minutes to complete, I'm going to notice and care about a 20-second
> > >delaymuch less than when I'm trying to spin through a few tasks in a minute
> > > (which is a real-world need for me as well).
>
> > > When reading up on pull queues a while back, I was a little confused about
> > > where I would use them with my own backends. I definitely could see an
> > > application for offloading work to an AWS Linux instance. But in either
> > > case, could you explain why it might help?
>
> > > I saw you mention in a separate thread how M/S can perform differently 
> > > from
> > > HRD even in cases where one wouldn't expect to see a difference. When I 
> > > get
> > > around to it I'm going to create a tiny HRD app and run the same tests
> > > through that.
>
> > > I also wonder if M/S could be responsible for frequent latencies in my 
> > > admin
> > > console. Those have gotten more frequent and annoying the past couple of
> > > months ...
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