Thanks - I appreciate the candor and insight. On Mar 14, 8:27 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)" <[email protected]> wrote: > For raw access, pretty much the barrier is demand. There's some argument > for raw datastore access via Javascript, but then there are all kinds of > messy business logic and security that you'd have to specify anyway. > > Unless you are just talking about using HTML5 and Javascript to talk to > Python/Java/Go. You can do that today. But odds are good you don't want to > give unfettered access to every single user of your application. That's why > you write the Python/Java/Go code: to implement the business logic. > > -- > Ikai Lan > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine > plus.ikailan.com > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 7:03 PM, that an <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks for the link. I really appreciate the response straight from > > the source. And it helps confirm for me that I'm probably looking for > > something that doesn't yet exist. > > > But what is the barrier for Google providing access to GAE via > > javascript? > > > GWT is, after all, converted to javascript when it is running on the > > client - so it is technically possible. And communication between > > client and server, no matter what platform they use is standard HTTP > > protocol - neither client or server really cares (or should care) > > about how the other is implemented. > > > I'm not trying to be obtuse, but it just seems like such a... > > natural... fit and obvious gap in the simplicity of the development. > > Write your GAE server in a natural server side language like Python or > > Java, and write your client in a natural client side language like > > javascript and HTML5. > > > Is there a reason that I've missed? Help me out here - I just don't > > understand the omission... > > > On Mar 14, 1:40 pm, "Ikai Lan (Google)" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I wouldn't say dancing - we just don't provide that kind of access. Even > > if > > > we ever did in the future, we would likely wrap an auth layer around it > > > (probably OAuth 2.0). > > > > This might be the closest thing you are looking for: > > > >http://code.google.com/p/google-protorpc/ > > > > But I don't have any thoughts about security, and you'd have to write the > > > code yourself to translate requests to datastore calls. > > > > -- > > > Ikai Lan > > > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine > > > plus.ikailan.com > > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 8:31 PM, that an <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I'm looking for a way to use javascript code to directly interface > > > > with the google app engine and with the datastore. > > > > > I've already used the GWT/GAE Java SDK in Eclipse with varying levels > > > > of success, but I'm looking for a way to leverage the benefits of GAE > > > > cloud services with the direct DOM manipulation of writing javascript > > > > directly for the client. GWT front end just doesn't seem flexible > > > > enough to do what javascript can. > > > > > Maybe I've missed something obvious, or something that is out there > > > > does it, but I've been searching for awhile now, and it just seems > > > > like Google is dancing around any direct client access to their App > > > > Engine and cloud datastore. > > > > > I've pretty much exhausted my leads so far - Any direction is greatly > > > > appreciated. > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups > > > > "Google App Engine" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > > . > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > [email protected]. > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Google App Engine" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
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