Hi Eric,

We haven't seen any issues with China and GAE per se. A couple of
things:

The primary problem, as you probably already know, is the GFW does
often block by IP when they have an issue with a site. If they happen
to block our IP for some reason, we have to move the site(s) to a
different map.You should most certainly contact us if you see this
happening & a traceroute to the domain (with CloudFlare active and
from China) would confirm. We don't run into this too often, however.

China routes traffic in/out in a very controlled manner (I believe our
network engineer said they only have 1 or 2 exit points). If you point
your service to CloudFlare, all of the traffic from China would hit
the United States (this would create a little latency for visitors
from mainland China).

If you're going to use SSL, you would want to make sure you're
choosing the FLEXIBLE SSL option on CloudFlare (requires a Pro
account)

Performance Enhancement:
You could enable optional services like Rocket Loader and Auto Minify
(we also have some good things for Pro accounts coming soon) to
further help speed up the site.




On May 22, 7:49 pm, Eric Ka Ka Ng <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thx you guys for all the suggestions (and debating ;))
>
> Will, our site is for general public, not mission critical, so infrequent
> downtime or a few minutes glitches could be acceptable. Guess from your
> description it's not ideal solution but acceptable, and should apply to us
> too.
>
> Jeff, full-time SSL, according to you, should further minimize chances for
> getting blocked. i think we can consider that too, thx
>
> Brando and Damon, thx a lots for the debating and i learn a lots from it.
> Damon, we want to launch a site in China and I prefer to run on GAE (just
> becoz i'm more familiar with dev on GAE than like EC2 or others) If you
> have any advises /settings for using CF to help us to minimize downtime /
> enhance performance / increase rank on SE (or have actual figures for
> downtime with GAE apps on CF in China) , please drop me an email. thx!
>
> cheers,
> eric
>
> On 23 May 2012 07:49, Damon Billian <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "1. I have never viewed myself as a Cloud Flare Competitor. We built a
> > Product because Cloud Flare F***ED so many bloggers and local
> > businesses
> > that we needed something that they could use as a stop gap until they
> > could
> > move to infrastructure that worked. "
>
> > Umm...your product isn't competitive?
>
> > "> 2. BULL CRAP"
> > Prove something valid? Or something that wasn't resolved?
>
> > "> 3. "Infrequently" yeah... When your site get delisted it makes you
> > feel
> > > better that it only happens once every 100 days."
> > There are tons of reasons that a site could get delisted from Google,
> > using CloudFlare or not. To assume that we're the cause because they
> > are on CloudFlare is flawed logic. I also explained the Google
> > crawling from new IPs that could cause a temporary issue.
>
> > "> I should encourage people to use Cloud Flare because it typically
> > was very
> > > good for getting me SEO business."
>
> > Yes, you should. Please do.
>
> > " I wouldn't Piss on a Cloud Flare
> > > employee if they were on fire. "
> > We wouldn't even accept it.
>
> > > 2. BULL CRAP
>
> > > 3. "Infrequently" yeah... When your site get delisted it makes you feel
> > > better that it only happens once every 100 days.
>
> > > I may be an ass at a time. I may have taken clients that are "scum of the
> > > earth" for doing reputation management.  I wouldn't Piss on a Cloud Flare
> > > employee if they were on fire.   That's where CF ranks in relationship to
> > > Cash For Gold, Politicians, and Pet Food companies that have had major
> > > recalls.
>
> > > I should encourage people to use Cloud Flare because it typically was
> > very
> > > good for getting me SEO business.
>
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