I've been using the Eclipse Plugin up until now, which is great but
can be a touch frustrating.  I had to make some big changes in my app
anyway, so I've just (finally) set up an ant script for
build-gwt-jar-deploy.  So far, just under 10 seconds on first startup,
about 6-8 seconds on following startups (after shutting the instance
down).

I do have some GWT loading issues but I think that's related to
first-run caching and can be fixed by code splitting to reduce the
initial download.

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 6:34 AM, Takashi Matsuo <[email protected]> wrote:
> Oops. Obviously I meant "flame".
>
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Takashi Matsuo <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Thanks everyone for the constructive discussion!
>>
>> First of all, before it becomes a sort of "frame"(please understand
>> I'm not saying you're inciting people), please keep in mind that we
>> want every runtime to be a first citizen of App Engine.
>>
>> Secondly, we have introduced significant improvement to the Java
>> Runtime in the past few years, so it should much much faster than it
>> was 3 years ago.
>>
>> Jeff,
>>
>> FYI, I've just started an internal discussion about this issue, and
>> we're taking this issue very seriously.
>> I also promise that I'll continue pushing the core engineering team
>> hard with this issue.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> -- Takashi
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Jeff Schnitzer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Renzo Nuccitelli <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  I don´t like flames Language A versus Language B. It just seems  that
>>>> Python fits better on GAE. It´s just a matter of using the right tool for
>>>> the problem.
>>>
>>> As someone who builds both Python and Java apps on GAE, let me assure
>>> you that there are plenty of issues in Pythonland as well.  There is
>>> no perfect language or perfect platform, just different problems to
>>> solve or work around.  The ones you are unfamiliar with always seem
>>> hardest.
>>>
>>> I like Python, but I think it is naive to claim that Python fits
>>> better on GAE.  There are many, many considerations beyond instance
>>> startup time.
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
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