Iain -

Thank you - your answer resolved my issue.  

johnP



On Thursday, July 5, 2012 7:58:03 PM UTC-7, Iain Wade wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 10:14 AM, johnP <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > We are using a CName aliased to  ghs.google.com 
>
> just to be clear, ghs.google.com is not the VIP CNAME - it is the 
> shared CNAME which only supports SNI. 
>
> VIP CNAMEs are of the form: ghs-svc-https-cXXXX.ghs-ssl.googlehosted.com. 
>
> the two services have different network architectures. 
>
> > The expiration time on the record is 15 minutes. 
> > 
> > The naked-domain was an error introduced in my wording of the question. 
>  The 
> > user (from two locations, from school and from home, in West Virginia) 
> is 
> > properly using the www subdomain in the request. In any case, we forward 
> the 
> > naked domains at a DNS level. 
> > 
> > We initiated SSL on Monday night/Tuesday morning.  There was a flurry of 
> > users from that same area in West Virginia having this issue.  We have 
> no 
> > reports of other users having the issue.  So I was thinking there might 
> be 
> > an ISP that has not refreshed the DNS cache. 
>
> Is it possible that your users are using web browsers which do not 
> support SNI? (for example MSIE on Windows XP). 
>
> If you're paying for a VIP, you will have better compatibility if you 
> use your personal ghs-svc-https-cXXXX.ghs-ssl.googlehosted.com CNAME 
> shown in the CPanel. 
>
> --Iain 
>
> > johnP 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Thursday, July 5, 2012 4:58:42 PM UTC-7, Cayden Meyer wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Hi John, 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 6 July 2012 05:33, johnP <[email protected]> wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> Question: 
> >>> 
> >>> a.  Am I correct in understanding that httpS://foo.com will always 
> >>> resolve to one IP Address? 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> When you have a VIP it will often resolve to the one IP Address however 
> at 
> >> this point we do not guarantee the IP address will remain unchanged. As 
> such 
> >> we strongly recommend using the CNAME we provide. 
> >> 
> >> I would recommend using the naked domain redirection provide by Google 
> >> Apps if you wish to use naked domains. 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> b.  Does that mean that http://foo.com  will also resolve to that 
> same IP 
> >>> Address? 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Both HTTPS and HTTP will resolve to the same DNS record, in short yes. 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> c.  Is it possible that customers may have  IP_orig DNS cached, and 
> the 
> >>> cache has not updated recently (due to power outages on the East 
> Coast, for 
> >>> example), so httpS is trying to resolve to the old IP and failing? 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Our infrastructure is designed so that traffic will be routed through 
> the 
> >> nearest possible data center to where your application is serving. Your 
> >> application will fail over to a different data center if there are any 
> >> issues with the data center you are currently serving out of. What this 
> >> means is that the situation you are talking about should not happen if 
> you 
> >> are using the CNAME we provide nor should a power outage in one of our 
> data 
> >> centers cause your application to be unreachable. 
> >> 
> >> If you use an A record instead and the IP changes for some reason then 
> >> this would be an issue, this is why we strongly recommend you do not 
> use an 
> >> A record. 
> >> 
> >> Cheers, 
> >> 
> >> Cayden Meyer 
> >> Product Manager, Google App Engine 
> >> 
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