On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Drake <[email protected]> wrote:
> This is a mirror of the conversation from 9 months ago and the one from 9
> months before that, and the conversation on the Amazon forum, and the
> Rackspace forum and the Google Webmasters forum...

I'll pretend for a moment that you're being thick instead of
deliberately disingenuous:

> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/google-appengine/om1DF_61Xl4/cRtKFojKc
> BMJ

This was back when CloudFlare offered full-mile SSL to GAE.  They did
it by issuing a second ssl request to ghs.google.com with a Host
header override to xyz.appspot.com.  Apparently that worked for a
while, until Google stopped accepting ssl requests on ghs.google.com.
CF was doing the wrong thing (xyz.appspot.com != ghs.google.com) but
this problem is totally unrelated to today's issue.

Apparently GAE wasn't a big enough market for them to devote enough
engineering resources to fix that particular problem, so the feature
got removed.   The reason I know what's going on here is because I
lobbied (unsuccessfully) to get their platform lead to bring the
feature back.

> http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CFgQFjAB
> &url=http%3A%2F%2Fproductforums.google.com%2Fd%2Ftopic%2Fwebmasters%2FsILDRV
> zPo6U&ei=38cZUMO_L4mMqwGk6oCICg&usg=AFQjCNHk6YVJTj6-hj_2NYP1OBBIuSFQXw&sig2=
> dRQ9_wSJ8bDC4nzzS6IQVQ

Who knows what's going on here, but it isn't related to anything that
happened today.  It's not even running on GAE or subject to GAE's
attack prevention.

> You guys can be assholes, but I'm telling you where your problem is. I told
> you 2 years ago, I told you 9 months ago. I am telling you now. You can
> stick your fingers in your ears, but this is not Google doing the wrong
> thing, it is CF. You won't have this problem if you use Akamai's DSA/PLC
> solution. Which is what I would recommend to anyone who needs international
> access on GAE, or who wants to leverage enterprise class caching.  It's what
> we are using for our top tier deployments.

Are you so certain of this that you're willing to grant me free
license to DOS your CDN at a time of my choosing?  I have some
reasonable suspicions as to how to tickle Google's defenses, and
shutting down your entire business in the middle of prime-time would
be a really spectacular way to prove someone wrong on the internet.

Jeff

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