Because I thought that all 3 methods that did not work involved storing 
data in Datastore. If you used Backend RAM as storage, well, ok it is an 
inventive way to use Backend, I guess. I think Backends are a wrong feature 
all together. I just does not with GAE  concept as a scalable, 
no-configuration system. But I guess we have ourselves to blame. Some of us 
screamed so much about 60 sec time limit in front-ends. And this time 
Google decided to "listen" and gave us Backends :)


On Wednesday, August 8, 2012 10:27:23 AM UTC-7, Jeff Schnitzer wrote:
>
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 9:24 AM, vlad <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> wrote: 
> > Jeff, what storage subsystem did you use on your dedicated host? If you 
> kept 
> > all data in RAM then it is just a sleuth of hand. Overall I am not 
> surprised 
> > about lame performance of backends and pull queues. I am a bit surprised 
> on 
> > the cost of doing it in Datastore. Good work! 
>
> Why do you call it sleuth of hand?  Storing the data in RAM represents 
> the actual business need.  We're doing not only an apples-to-apples 
> comparison but an "actual implementation of business case to actual 
> implementation of business case". 
>
> Persistent RAM is one of the principal values of a Backend, and it 
> turns out that they aren't very useful for that purpose.  Not only is 
> QPS low, but if you saw my post in Brandon's thread, latency is 
> erratic and horrible. 
>
> Just to give some latency numbers:  Urlfetches to the rackspace VPS 
> are consistently 30-50ms.  Not great, but tolerable.  Urlfetches to a 
> backend average about the same - they skew more towards 15-25ms, but 
> there are a large number of 250ms+ outliers that push up the 
> arithmetic mean. 
>
> No-op fetches F1 to B1: 
> https://img.skitch.com/20120808-nn749683wqdg5516fy732k71iw.jpg 
> No-op fetches F1 to B8: 
> https://img.skitch.com/20120808-gerejtgfd958i691hsiw897wjw.jpg 
>
> The test F1 to Rackspace: 
> https://img.skitch.com/20120808-npj3kutc2p511bw5gujxkm5kg4.jpg 
>
> BTW I picked Rackspace for this test because I happened to already 
> have a VPS there.  I would love to see latency numbers for Linode, 
> EC2, and Google Compute Engine.  Does anyone want to run the test? 
> I'm still waiting for an invite to GCE. 
>
> Jeff 
>

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