Hi Karel and Jay, I'm trying to project the cost of hosting and bandwith 
for a social game we're developing. It's a flash game, sort of like Mafia 
Wars Shake down (for comparison purposes). I was thinking of budgeting $70 
per 1000 users. Not sure what cloud company should I use yet, although 
Right Scale seems like a good option. Any recommendations would be highly 
appreciated.
Thanks,
Ed

On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:03:10 AM UTC-4, Karel Crombecq wrote:
>
> Hey Jay,
>
> I actually registered yesterday on your game to get an idea of a game 
> hosted on GAE. I'm enjoying it!
>
> But the new pricing greatly disturbs me. I'm not sure if running this game 
> on GAE is actually viable at all in terms of costs. I did some research on 
> the new pricing (for example 
> http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/postpreviewpricing.html#operations_charged_for)
>  
> and as far as I can see, datastore reads and writes both have a similar 
> cost. And they don't charge per query, but they charge per object (row) 
> fetched.
>
> I did some calculations on my current database data, and CQ2 generates 
> about 1M database writes for something like 650 daily users. That's about 3 
> times as much as your game does, which would also triple the bill. That's a 
> lot, but something I can handle. Since most of the writes are one-record 
> only, the total cost would be $1,5 per day for 1000 users.
>
> However, the datastore reads are the real issue here. I have about 4M 
> SELECT queries for 650 users. Considering that many of these return more 
> than one row, I can easily reach 10M datastore reads each day, for an 
> additional cost of $2,8 each day.
>
> This results in a total of €159 per month, for 1000 users. My estimations 
> for the Amazon cloud were a cost of $65 per 1000 users each month (based on 
> our current system and their instances), which would make GAE 3 times more 
> expensive. That's quite worrysome, even though these statistics were 
> generated based on relational database writes as opposed to datastore 
> writes. It's hard to predict if I will need less or more datastore 
> operations to achieve the same result. I'm actually thinking less, because 
> I can cache a lot of static data into memory.
>
>
>

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