I'm not sure about that. I think you missed the Customer Content
definition, from the terms:

"Customer Content means content provided, generated, transmitted or
displayed via the Service by Customer, as well as any content provided
by End Users through use of an Application."

I think the above is quite clear. Besides, what happens in reality (at
least, in my experience) is that people and orgs that want a total
data lock down in EU won't use your app/service having the above
definition anyway. So, I'm pretty much happy with the Safe Harbor.


On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Kenneth <[email protected]> wrote:
> You have missed the distinction between Customer data and End User Content.
>
> You as a startup are the customer, so Google's is saying your information
> like your google account details, application and billing information may be
> stored in the United States.  Since you are the owner of this data you can
> consent to it being stored anywhere you want.
>
> End User Content is your application data, ie your customer's data, and is
> clearly stored at rest in the EU, so no need to invoke safe harbour.
>
> https://developers.google.com/appengine/docs/premier/location
>
>
> On Thursday, October 11, 2012 10:25:27 AM UTC+1, alex wrote:
>>
>> I might have missed something, but I think you guys misunderstood an
>> important point.
>>
>> The description of running in EU datacenters feature does say that you
>> will be able to run your app in EU but it also says that the data
>> processing might still happen in countries outside of EU, so this
>> won't hold against a keeping your data within the EU requirement. IMHO
>> it is much better to take the Safe Harbor road. At least, for now.
>> (that's what my startup is doing).
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Heiko Roth <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Hello Marcel,
>> >
>> > I need European hosting, too. It's European lae that employee and
>> > business
>> > dependent data isn't allowed to left Europe, so I need servers inside
>> > Europe.
>> > And Premium support is to expensive.
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