Thanks for this review Brandon.

Does your assessment apply to all runtime environments (Java, Python and
Go)?

Nick



On 21 November 2012 05:52, Brandon Wirtz <[email protected]> wrote:

> I wanted to take a minute to update you on where we are with our GAE
> Experience since people often tell me I live in my own little world of
> rainbows and unicorns.****
>
> ** **
>
> GAE Support sucks.  I might as well send messages by carrier pigeons, and
> that is generous. Filling out a form for support is like putting a note in
> a bottle, putting that bottle in cement and chucking it in to the ocean and
> hoping support will see it when they are on a scuba trip. (or made to where
> cement shoes by the mob) (we have used the quota increase request forms at
> the two locations we know about, sent emails, nothing)
>
> Uptime is not too bad, but Slowtime is.  Memcache gets slow, datastore
> gets really slow, chron jobs fire late (or not at all). This is worse on
> low traffic apps. For some reason if you can get 8 instances running life
> is happy. The world changes and the unicorns dance.****
>
> ** **
>
> Backends are worthless if you want them to do more than one thing.
> Autoscaling backends doesn’t work. Bug just sits there, I’m told things
> work as expected. Apparently I should just expect that everyone will get a
> server busy error.****
>
> ** **
>
> Quota limits are really stupid.  We moved a bunch of things off of GAE
> because GAE has really stupid limits on the amount of data you can
> download, and the amount of inter-app data you can use.  We have apps that
> talk to apps, and we routinely bump against quota limits. Doesn’t matter
> how much traffic we are doing, or what we are spending, you are rate
> limited on HTTP requests. Well if you consume an API, or use an api you own
> on another Appengine App, you will just magically explode when you get a
> traffic spike.****
>
> ** **
>
> So here is where we are at:
>
> We moved a lot of things off of AppEngine. We are going to try and salvage
> some of this with getting premier support. (though last time we were told
> it wouldn’t make us happy, this time I’m going to pay the money, find out
> if I’m unhappy, and if I’m not we will leave, for real, for permanent)
>
> We love that AppEngine saves us from building infrastructure. It is great
> for rapid prototyping. When the scalability works it is awesome. When the
> quotas kick in and break us, (and it took 2 weeks to get the quotas lifted
> last time) it sucks and we look stupid.  ****
>
> ** **
>
> I am posting this here because the ONLY way to get support is to post a
> nasty message in the forums. Anything else is largely ignored. ****
>
> ** **
>
> If you want a great product that works and you are ok with that it will
> work to the limits of what it does, and that your uptime will be good, but
> you won’t have any insight in to your downtime, Appengine is great. If you
> need someone to tweak, change, or fix something. Or you want to be able to
> tell your CEO, “yeah they are fixing that as we speak” and not have it be a
> lie, this is not the place for you.
>
> ****
>
> -Brandon
> 650-281-1467
>
> ****
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