Wow! you guys are so fast that this thread looks like a chat :)

In the past, quota limits were based on 2 conflicting objectives:

   - discouraging people from building non-scalable applications by 
   restricting APIs & time limits.
   - discouraging people from using app engine at an "unfair" cost during 
   the request pricing regime.
   
The synthetic limits problem that you mentioned are the result of 
the request pricing regime. It was frustrating to work-around the pricing 
constraints instead of constraints based on the best practices for scaling. 
With the new instance based pricing, these quota limits exist only as a 
best practice for scaling, IMO.

For example, urlfetch deadline limit is now configurable. Similarly, 
Stanford NLP works quite well on the java version or you could very well 
use Alchemy API, depending on how much control you want to have on your 
language heuristics.

It is sad that you are leaving. But, I guess, it is a collateral damage of 
being an early adopter of a technology whose business model & technology 
were figured out in the process.

regards,
mani


On Friday, 23 November 2012 09:28:18 UTC+5:30, Brandon Wirtz wrote:
>
> >IMO, backends & quota limits are mostly problems arising out of bigtable 
> data migration (for new application >versions) & joins/aggregates (in 
> reporting).
>
>  
>
> A few “for instances”
>
> We get feeds from Associated Press. When they update the feed and we try 
> to grab a few hundred images at a time, we hit URL Fetch limits.
>
> We have a Language Heuristics Engine that is a core tech of all our 
> product, we hit limits on how many request from other AppEngine Apps can 
> hit that.
>
>  
>
> We were trying to do Large jobs with backends, which are supposed to 
> autoscale. They don’t.
>
> While you are right that those limits hit during migrations, they are also 
> part of our daily life. We spend a lot of time thinking about how we can 
> engineer around the synthetic limits of Appengine.  And often how those 
> limitations are inflicted on us change suddenly without notification.
>
>  
>

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