Jeff,

You're probably right that no-one in GAE team has input on pricing strategy 
for Google Apps, so therefore pointless to vent here. It's a good point and 
I apologize for diluting a tech thread with this. But it's also not 100% 
impossible that Greg could put a word through to someone with sensitive 
ears willing to consider grandfathering a few worthy exceptions. It is not 
unheard of. I actually heard there were some cases individually considered. 
I wouldn't bother, but some good things are resting on it. And Frantisek, 
It's easy to be blase about money when you're consulting and the money is 
flowing in. I've been there. But voluntary work is unpaid, and in 
the Philippines just $10 means the difference between a child keeping their 
teeth or not, for example. But I digress, don't worry, I won't be making a 
nuisance of myself here; if anyone has a relevant contact in Google I can 
approach, please let me know.

Thanks,
River. 

On Monday, December 10, 2012 11:18:40 AM UTC-7, Jeff Schnitzer wrote:

> And yet as Greg pointed out, GAE usage is unaffected by the Google Apps 
> changes.  You can still create a 1-user free Google Apps system.  So 
> complaining here about 1 user vs 10 users vs 50 users is not productive - 
> I'm willing to bet that nobody on the GAE team has any input into the 
> pricing strategy for Google Apps.
>
> The real problem is that calling a product "Google Apps" is stupid.  I 
> just had a client ask me "did you see that there will no longer be a free 
> tier for app engine?".  Google's product names are confusing.  Ranting to 
> the wrong people on this list is not helping matters.
>
> If ranting here because it's "the same company" is appropriate, just wait 
> until the search and gmail users find us...
>
> Jeff 
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 2:43 AM, Brandon Wirtz wrote:
>
>> Oh? So you don’t use Apps For Domains to Deploy your App? It’d be awesome 
>> if you didn’t have to do that, but I kind of think you do.
>>
>> *From:* *On Behalf Of *Jeff Schnitzer
>> *Sent:* Sunday, December 9, 2012 8:15 PM
>> *To:* Google App Engine
>> *Subject:* Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google Apps No Longer Free
>>
>> This thread keeps getting more and more surreal.
>>
>> Google App Engine != Google Apps.  They aren't run by the same people.  I 
>> realize there probably isn't a mailing list where you can vent at the 
>> Google Apps team, but it's pointless to do it here.****
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>> **
>>
>
>

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