I've seen many variations of this statement, "Google App Engine is 
expensive!", and it always strikes me as a bit off.  I supppose it depends 
on your perspective and your requirements.

For the past three years I've been running a small start-up building a SaaS 
analytics application.  For the prior 25 years or so I built enterprise 
apps for some well-known software houses.  The last 12 years I was building 
SaaS-based software products serving top-tier global financial 
institutions.  During that time I worked on projects where we built, from 
the ground up, 2 different web-based solutions which wound up serving 
tens-of-thousands of end-users and very large volumes of system-to-system 
(B2B type) transaction volumes.

When we created our infrastructure for these systems we needed multiple 
geographically dispersed data centers, high levels of fault-tolerance 
within any given data center, n-tier architecture, secure systems, scalable 
databases and front-end servers, system, security and network monitoring 
and administration, etc.  When you spec that all out from scratch, you will 
have a hard time doing it for less than several hundred thousand dollars 
capex with big ongoing opex expense.  Any growth beyond your initial 
headroom will require additional capex expenditure and incremental ongoing 
opex.

Depending on the profile of your application and the system load, at some 
point you will pass the threshold of it being cheaper to build and maintain 
your own equivalent infrastructure, but that threshold is very, very high. 
 So it makes me think people who say GAE is 'expensive' are not making a 
comparison such as this.  Maybe they don't really need everything that GAE 
offers.

Or perhaps they are comparing GAE to other cloud offerings such as AWS? 
 Amazon's pricing doesn't seem to be radically different than Google's to 
me, for similar services.  And given that Amazon's PaaS solution is not yet 
as complete at GAE, I think that any complete appliation built on AWS is 
going to require some level of system-engineering.  System engineers are 
not cheap. One of the things we like about GAE is that, at this point in 
our corporate evolution, we can focus entirely on our Customers and our 
Software and not spend money or time configuring hardware, OS and other 
"low level" stuff that we (as application software guys) don't want to mess 
with.  There are very real hard and soft monetary benefits to this. 

Or maybe when people say "expensive" they mean as compared to other "cloud" 
offerings that are more along the lines of rented physical or virtual 
machines.  Yes, some of these can be cheap compared to GAE.  But these are 
really apples-to-oranges comparisons when you consider all the things you 
need to provision a global, "utility-grade" (aspirationally, anyway) SaaS 
offering.  

So I guess this post is a long-winded way of me saying "GAE Expensive? 
 Really?  What exactly do you mean by that?  Compared to what?"

On Monday, January 20, 2014 4:19:54 AM UTC-6, coto wrote:
>
> We all should be surprised, because Google App Engine is very expensive!!
>
> On Sunday, January 19, 2014 5:23:13 AM UTC-3, alex wrote:
>>
>> Why were you surprised?
>
>

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