There are open source projects that would allow you to approximate the 
functionality of BigTable.  I wonder have you put together a business case 
for what it would take you to build it and support it on your own?

Another option I would consider if I were you and only really wanted the 
database of AppEngine, would be to simply build data services (REST or 
whatever) on the AppEngine platform and host the rest elsewhere.  Assuming, 
of course, the architecture of your product would support such a split.



On Thursday, February 20, 2014 4:59:23 AM UTC-6, Tapir wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thursday, February 20, 2014 5:30:23 PM UTC+8, Pertti Kellomäki wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 20, 2014 at 5:23 AM, Tapir <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 20, 2014 7:58:54 AM UTC+8, Jim wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It seems that some people want "Infrastructure as a Service" and they 
>>>> don't put much value on the "Platform as a Service" architecture that 
>>>> Google has created here.  Many of them also seem to not place any value on 
>>>> their own time, or the time of their Systems Engineering function, or on 
>>>> the opportunity cost of the time spent setting up servers and routers and 
>>>> load balancers, etc etc etc.  Those people should probably go rent a 
>>>> virtual Linux box or two and setup stacks to their hearts content.  
>>>>
>>>
>>> If you can provide the details of the cost you mentioned, it will be 
>>> more persuasive, otherwise it looks like an excuse.
>>>
>>
>> Here's my case. I am the only person working on my application, and I do 
>> it full time. 
>>
>> If I were to devote some of my time on setting up and maintaining 
>> infrastructure, it would slow down development of the application features 
>> that customers ultimately pay for. That's opportunity cost, hard to 
>> quantify but very real. If my money runs out before the features are there, 
>> I go bust.
>>
>> The other option would be to keep on developing the application 
>> functionality myself, and hire another guy to take care of the 
>> infrastructure. I am doing this on a shoestring budget, so taking on an 
>> employee would easily quadruple my salary expenses. I don't see any 
>> competent engineer working for someone else on the meager salary I pay 
>> myself. I would not.
>>
>> So if you can explain to me how I can maintain the current speed of 
>> application development and have my own infrastructure without spending any 
>> of my time or money, I'm all ears. Otherwise it is just so much empty talk 
>> as far as I'm concerned. 
>>
> -- 
>> Pertti
>>
>
> Your opinion is there is the requests for the PaaS products. PaaS products 
> simplify more for developers than IaaS. So its price should be higher.
> Ok, although there are also many disadvantages comparing PaaS to IaaS, I 
> agree with you.
>
> What I disagree with you is how higher the price should be. 
> Now the price of the compute unit of App Engine is 10 times of GCE and 
> EC2, 40 times of DigitalOcean.
> I think the price of GCE and EC2 should be half of current which is still 
> more than double of DigitalOcean.
> I think the price if App Engine compute unit should be 1.5-2.0 times of 
> GCE and EC2.
>
> Now, what I worry about is the cost of my app is much higher than the 
> advertisement revenue of my app if Google doesn't provide the free hours 
> any more. 
> Even with the free hours, the cost is still higher than the advertisement 
> revenue in some days past.
> Maybe this is only for Java.
>
> The only thing makes me must use App Engine is, BigTable, nothing else. I 
> like the database so much, I can't find a real competitive alternative for 
> it. 
>
> I don't know what is your situation. Are the free hours enough for you? If 
> there is no free hours any more, can you app survive? Do you app use 
> BigTable heavily?
>  
>

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