of all strange rabbit-holes, this seems to have fixed my issue
http://askubuntu.com/questions/574569/apt-get-stuck-at-0-connecting-to-us-archive-ubuntu-com

noticed that when installing iperf to try and do what Nick suggested, i got 
stuck trying to get updates, which led me to this solution, which seems to 
have resolved my appengine issues.

On Friday, September 18, 2015 at 2:34:36 PM UTC-7, Cameron Tangney wrote:
>
> Thanks for the idea Nick. In the verbose output I'm seeing lines like this:
>
> DEBUG: Sending request to
> https://appengine.google.com/api/appversion/clonefiles?app_id=
> <project>&module=users&version=6
> headers={'X-appcfg-api-version': '1', 'content-length': '2854',
> 'Content-Type': 'application/octet-stream'}
> body=static/js/components
>
> ...
>
> Is that the deployment server you're talking about?
> How should I go about determining the details re:network latency to this 
> endpoint?
>
>

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