Hey PK, Thanks for your questions. I'll answer them numerically:
1. I wasn't speaking from the docs but making an inference based on the limitations on the use of the Mail API, and the fact that our documentation <https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/python/mail/sendgrid> on Sendgrid speaks of it as a good solution for bulk emails. 2. As mentioned, you can make a feature request <https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/python/mail/sendgrid> for such a feature and it will be triaged and implemented depending on the amount of stars on the feature request and the plans of our developers. To make a feature request for a feature you desire is the best way to get your idea to Product Managers, Engineers or anybody else who can make a decision. The use-case you outline is quite clear, and I encourage you to make that feature request. Best wishes, Nick On Monday, September 14, 2015 at 5:29:56 PM UTC-4, PK wrote: > > Hi Nick, > > 1. Can you please point me to your documentation and marketing material > where it states: "The Mail API is really meant for more admin-purpose mail > sending”. Even if you added recently, when I built my app this was not > there. But even then admins needs attachments too. > 2. What you call the “in theory” stuff is where I expect Google to add > value by integrating all the pieces together and provide superior > performance. You are the only ones you can do it. > 3. Google App Engine mail works mostly great for my purposes. I can find > another API mail vendor who offers me uploading my files to Amazon S3 and > then send them from their service but I would need two more accounts, a lot > of data moving in and out from multiple services (you know egress data is > expensive, right???) the whole reason I use GAE is to find pretty much all > the services in one place and not having to move data around the internet. > > I hope your product managers take a look at this because it really shows a > use case that only Google can efficiently do by putting all your services > to work together. > > 1. Use GAE to upload a file into GCS > 2. Send an e-mail that refers that file as an attachment > > OR > > 1. An incoming e-mail arrives with attachments > 2. The attachments are immediately stored in a bucket in GCS > 3. The API delivers a manageable message to my GAE with pointers to the > attachments in GCS > > Hey think, beautiful demos that show three of your services playing > together in a future Google I/O, and a customer (me) behind it already > using it… > > Best, > > > On Sep 14, 2015, at 9:51 AM, Nick (Cloud Platform Support) < > [email protected]> wrote: > > Hey PK, > > The Mail API is really meant for more admin-purpose mail sending, and if > you have a requirement for mass email sending, heavy attachments, or > advanced features, Sendgrid is really the way to go. To overcome the > problem of reading files into memory, you could always create links on your > own app which map to a given file and would send a redirect response to the > temporary signed serving URL for the Cloud Storage object > <https://cloud.google.com/storage/docs/access-control?hl=en>. This will > make your mail messages much smaller and faster as well. > > If you're interested in sending attachments themselves, you will have to > load the data into memory in order to send the email, since the bytes have > to actually be written into the body of the message, and this is no > different as for any email service. The mail message simply has to contain > the data of the file. Of course in theory the infrastructure could find a > way to insert this into some kind of proto-messsage lacking the file data > which is intercepted, filled, and then sent on its way, you'd need to make > a feature request, which you've already done, so that's good. > > Best wishes, > > Nick > > On Monday, September 14, 2015 at 12:33:03 PM UTC-4, PK wrote: >> >> Unfortunately, the send mail API does not have a way to send as an >> attachment files from cloud storage. In our applications, this forces us to >> read the whole attachment to main memory and then use the mail API to send >> it. For big attachments this quickly overwhelms small footprint instances. >> >> The same goes for incoming e-mail with attachments, it would be nice to >> go directly to cloud storage. >> >> Please star this: >> https://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=10560 >> >> Does anybody have experience how this would work with sendgrid? Can I >> stream an big attachment to a storage location and then send an e-mail >> referring to that location and the same for incoming messages with >> attachments? >> >> On Sep 14, 2015, at 9:13 AM, Nick (Cloud Platform Support) < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Snahasish, >> >> It's definitely possible to do what you're thinking of. You can use Cloud >> Storage <https://cloud.google.com/storage/> or Blobstore >> <https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/python/blobstore/> to upload >> and read files to/from your App Engine instances, and you can use the Mail >> API <https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/python/mail/> or Sendgrid >> <https://sendgrid.com/> to send the mail. You should use Sendgrid if you >> intend to use more than the quota allowed for the Mail API. >> >> I hope you are able to find what you need by reading in the docs related >> to those services. >> >> Sincerely, >> >> Nick >> >> On Saturday, September 12, 2015 at 7:12:02 AM UTC-4, snahasis ghosh wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> <http://stackoverflow.com/questions/32538058/file-upload-in-google-stroage-and-send-mail-using-app-enngine#> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I am new in Google app engine. >>> >>> I need some help and suggestion from you. >>> >>> >>> I have an project in Google app engine, >>> >>> for example http://devSend.appspot.com/ <http://devsend.appspot.com/> >>> >>> >>> <http://devsend.appspot.com/> >>> >>> I have another application written in GWT 2.7.0 and SmartGWT5.1 and >>> deployed in Tomcat 7 java 1.8 (64 bit). >>> >>> From this application I want to upload a file(.np3) >>> https://devSend.appspot.com/devstore/indfs01 >>> <https://devsend.appspot.com/devstore/indfs01> location. >>> >>> Also I want to send mail using Google app engine from http://devSend >>> <https://devsend.appspot.com/devstore/indfs01>send.appspot.com/dev >>> <https://devsend.appspot.com/devstore/indfs01>send. >>> >>> >>> All the path are configured. >>> >>> >>> Is it possible to achieve this ? >>> >>> >>> From where I have to start ? >>> >>> >>> Please help me. >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> Snahasish >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Google App Engine" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/9a0ee09a-6259-4c1b-96f3-219517ed8904%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/9a0ee09a-6259-4c1b-96f3-219517ed8904%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> >> PK >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/ed958c63-0522-4c03-8c31-3281bce6ef1d%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/ed958c63-0522-4c03-8c31-3281bce6ef1d%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > PK > [email protected] > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. 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