Thanks, we'll clear up the documentation to make it clearer. In the meantime, here's a quick explanation. The difference between the two modes is the way builds are performed.
In the current (default) way, a transient GCE VM (called the builder VM) is provisioned in your project, which runs the Docker build. The gcloud tool uses the Docker wire protocol to connect to the GCE VM to perform the build. This usually works well for most customers, but has some disadvantages. The most notable are: - GCE VMs can take a few seconds (~30) to be provisioned, which adds that much delay to the overall deployment time - There are some edge cases where GCE VM deployments fail (for example, the one you just encountered, or when certain GCE quotas are exceeded) which then causes the failure of the App Engine deployment. - As a customer, you will see transient builder VMs in your project (which can be annoying to have to parse through) The container builder service addresses these concerns, by performing builds via a dedicated service. This avoids both the 30s VM provisioning delay and the issues associated with transient VMs. It also allows us to more easily improve and optimize the build experience over time. Overall deployments on Managed VMs should thus be faster and more reliable. We are working to make Container Builder the default underlying mechanism for Managed VM deployments. We have a few teething issues to sort out (mainly relating to how the service is activated) before we do that, but I'd encourage all interested customers to try it out using the gcloud configuration setting described above. Please also make sure you're using the latest release (96.0.0 or later) of the gcloud tool as that includes some important updates. And if you're trying out, please give us feedback! If you'd prefer you can reach me directly - jessup AT google DOT com. On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 9:09 PM, Roy Palacios <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > Thanks for the response. It looks like it is working perfectly :) > > I see it documented here as well: > https://cloud.google.com/appengine/docs/managed-vms/go/testing-and-deploying-your-app > > However, it's not really clear what the advantage is. Both methods run > remotely (the first one is a transient VM). > > Thanks, > Roy > > On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 11:38 PM, 'Andrew Jessup' via Google App Engine < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Roy, >> >> You can try using the container builder >> <https://cloud.google.com/container-builder/docs/> API to run your image >> builds in App Engine (rather than relying on the local docker >> installation). To do this, run: >> >> $ gcloud config set app/use_cloud_build true >> >> Then try a deployment again using aedeploy. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 7:32 PM, Roy Palacios <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I have a Go project running on ManagedVMs and wanted to try the Cloud >>> Shell. >>> >>> So, I have my repository in $HOME/default and a symbolic link from my >>> repository to $GOPATH >>> >>> The problem is that whenever I pull changes from the Cloud Shell and try >>> to deploy with aedeploy, I end up using the Docker Cache and the changes >>> are not reflected. >>> >>> I guess it is because somehow the build process didnt detect the changes. >>> >>> Is there anything to fix this? My workaround now is just to do some >>> dummy code change using the Cloud Shell. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Roy >>> >>> roy_palacios@sanguine-form-95600:~/default/ >>> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.pe/module/batch$ git pullUnpacking objects: 100% (6/6), >>> done.From >>> https://source.developers.google.com/p/sanguine-form-95600/r/default >>> 8fd0d40..08c487b master -> origin/masterUpdating 8fd0d40..08c487b >>> Fast-forward cpe.pe/batch/padronbatch/padronbatch.go | 9 +++++++++ 1 >>> file changed, 9 insertions(+)roy_palacios@sanguine-form-95600:~/default/ >>> xxxxxxxxxx.pe/module/batch$ aedeploy gcloud preview app deploy app.yamlYou >>> are about to deploy the following modules: - sanguine-form-95600/batch >>> (from [/tmp/aedeploy433757798/app.yaml]) Deployed URL: >>> [xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]Do you want to continue (Y/n)? yBeginning >>> deployment...Verifying that Managed VMs are enabled and ready.Building >>> and pushing image for module >>> [batch]-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> DOCKER BUILD OUTPUT >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------Step >>> 1 : FROM gcr.io/google_appengine/golang---> 28d7c86afc7aStep 2 : COPY . >>> /go/src/app---> Using cache---> 9e8c6f93f56cStep 3 : RUN go-wrapper >>> install -tags appenginevm---> Using cache---> 6693827d78cdSuccessfully >>> built 6693827d78cd >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Copying >>> files to Google Cloud Storage...Synchronizing files to [gs:// >>> staging.sanguine-form-95600.appspot.com/].Updating module >>> [batch]...done.Deployed module [batch] to [xxxxxxxxxx] >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Google App Engine" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/2e8f6844-3f7b-45ba-973d-9ab89e1a8ada%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/2e8f6844-3f7b-45ba-973d-9ab89e1a8ada%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Andrew Jessup | Product Manager, Google Cloud Platform | >> [email protected] >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >> Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. >> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/google-appengine/esBdozrIgW8/unsubscribe >> . >> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >> [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/CAEF6f2vo-QPCOqwcyu_D_nBZRBshtTXXjNmERCQT9%3D0QB%3DotjA%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/CAEF6f2vo-QPCOqwcyu_D_nBZRBshtTXXjNmERCQT9%3D0QB%3DotjA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google App Engine" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/CA%2BhTChuFajKeiFxcQNF66u_Y48eoVO0OA5-YnGJMgq%2BbW_5c%2BA%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/google-appengine/CA%2BhTChuFajKeiFxcQNF66u_Y48eoVO0OA5-YnGJMgq%2BbW_5c%2BA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Andrew Jessup | Product Manager, Google Cloud Platform | [email protected] -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google App Engine" group. 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