Thank you so much for digging into this! That solves our problem.

I agree that distributing app engine via gcloud is superior to the previous 
approach. I also agree that people should just follow the "vendoring" 
directions for pure python dependencies, rather than relying on the app 
engine specific "libraries" section in app.yaml, so I think these are 
positive changes. However, there is also a bunch of existing app engine 
code out there, so I'm happy that we've figure out how to fix this 
backwards compatibility issue.

Evan


On Saturday, October 15, 2016 at 2:28:26 PM UTC-4, Adam (Cloud Platform 
Support) wrote:
>
> It looks like the django libs have been moved to an external package, as 
> the size of django has a significant effect on the install time. It still 
> can be installed with the following command:
>
> gcloud components update app-engine-python-extras
>
> I've requested that the documentation gets updated accordingly.
>
> On Sunday, October 9, 2016 at 1:46:57 PM UTC-4, Adam (Cloud Platform 
> Support) wrote:
>>
>> Yes, I see this too after updating. I'll ask about this again and try to 
>> get some conclusive information this time.
>>
>> On Friday, October 7, 2016 at 5:18:15 PM UTC-4, Evan Jones wrote:
>>>
>>> I just did a clean install of gcloud 129.0.0 and this has not changed: 
>>> the lib directory still does not include any versions of django, and the 
>>> following example application does not work. If I download the standalone 
>>> Python 1.9.40 distribution, it does work:
>>>
>>>
>>> *hello.py*:
>>>
>>> import django
>>> import webapp2
>>>
>>>
>>> class HelloHandler(webapp2.RequestHandler):
>>>     def get(self):
>>>         self.response.write('ok')
>>>
>>>
>>> app = webapp2.WSGIApplication([
>>>         ('/', HelloHandler),
>>>     ],
>>>     debug=True
>>> )
>>>
>>>
>>> *hello.yaml:*
>>>
>>> runtime: python27
>>> api_version: 1
>>> threadsafe: true
>>>
>>> handlers:
>>> - url: /
>>>   script: hello.app
>>>
>>> libraries:
>>> - name: django
>>>   version: "1.4"
>>>
>>>
>>> *dev_appserver.py output:*
>>>
>>> $ ./google-cloud-sdk/bin/dev_appserver.py hello.yaml 
>>>
>>> INFO     2016-10-07 21:17:36,663 devappserver2.py:769] Skipping SDK 
>>> update check.
>>>
>>> INFO     2016-10-07 21:17:36,735 api_server.py:205] Starting API server 
>>> at: http://localhost:64103
>>>
>>> INFO     2016-10-07 21:17:36,739 dispatcher.py:197] Starting module 
>>> "default" running at: http://localhost:8080
>>>
>>> INFO     2016-10-07 21:17:36,743 admin_server.py:116] Starting admin 
>>> server at: http://localhost:8000
>>>
>>> ERROR    2016-10-07 21:17:42,274 wsgi.py:263] 
>>>
>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>
>>>   File 
>>> "/Users/evanjones/wtf/google-cloud-sdk/platform/google_appengine/google/appengine/runtime/wsgi.py",
>>>  
>>> line 240, in Handle
>>>
>>>     handler = _config_handle.add_wsgi_middleware(self._LoadHandler())
>>>
>>>   File 
>>> "/Users/evanjones/wtf/google-cloud-sdk/platform/google_appengine/google/appengine/runtime/wsgi.py",
>>>  
>>> line 299, in _LoadHandler
>>>
>>>     handler, path, err = LoadObject(self._handler)
>>>
>>>   File 
>>> "/Users/evanjones/wtf/google-cloud-sdk/platform/google_appengine/google/appengine/runtime/wsgi.py",
>>>  
>>> line 85, in LoadObject
>>>
>>>     obj = __import__(path[0])
>>>
>>>   File "/Users/evanjones/wtf/hello.py", line 1, in <module>
>>>
>>>     import django
>>>
>>> ImportError: No module named django
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 7, 2016 at 3:22:34 PM UTC-4, Adam (Cloud Platform 
>>> Support) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It looks like there was an issue with the Django libraries being left 
>>>> out in Gcloud 128.0.0 which was fixed in 129.0.0. Please let us know if 
>>>> you're still having issues.
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, October 3, 2016 at 4:57:04 PM UTC-4, Adam (Cloud Platform 
>>>> Support) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for reporting this. I'll do some investigation and will update 
>>>>> the thread when I have more info.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, September 30, 2016 at 11:45:17 AM UTC-4, Evan Jones wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It appears that the documentation now recommends using the version of 
>>>>>> App Engine shipped with gcloud (via gcloud components install 
>>>>>> app-engine-python). However, this version does not include any of the 
>>>>>> built-in versions of Django, which can be loaded by adding references to 
>>>>>> the "libraries" section. Is this an intentional change, or is this a 
>>>>>> bug? 
>>>>>> It is annoying because it means that an app that works with the 
>>>>>> standalone 
>>>>>> version of dev_appserver.py may not work with the gcloud version. It 
>>>>>> also 
>>>>>> means the documentation is wrong in many places. Its relatively easy to 
>>>>>> fix 
>>>>>> by vendoring django, but it would be nice to fix the documentation and 
>>>>>> make 
>>>>>> the two distributions be the same.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Details:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is the diff -u output between ls 
>>>>>> google-cloud-sdk/platform/google_appengine/lib and ls 
>>>>>> google_appengine/lib. You can see that the gcloud version is missing 
>>>>>> all versions of django, and graphy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- appengine 2016-09-30 11:43:22.000000000 -0400
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +++ gcloud 2016-09-30 11:42:07.000000000 -0400
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @@ -8,17 +8,10 @@
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  concurrent
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  deprecated_enum
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  distutils
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -django-0.96
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -django-1.2
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -django-1.3
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -django-1.4
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -django-1.5
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -django-1.9
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  docker
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  endpoints-1.0
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  fancy_urllib
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  google-api-python-client
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -graphy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  grizzled
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  httplib2
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  ipaddr
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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