this really seems to point out the larger problem at work here. a
browser-session needs to have multiple access capabilities on a single
page, especially within a "single sign on" framework.  The session
owner might be part of multiple domains, with differing roles too, so
that needs to be feasible without constantly logging in and logging
out.

another message indicated that there was no way to add external e-mail
addresses to a mailing list in apps - another one earlier somewhere
else said that this would be accomplished as a hack to 'groups' -- yet
another person on another list has said that they've scrapped a
project based on notebooks because of these types of access control
issues with accounts and domains. even simple calendar/event-
notification functions are upside down or backwards in many real world
use-cases

sounds like developers are hitting a brick wall with implementations
because of these types of problems -- the features are not nearly what
they appear to be once they are actually put to use..

at least google is somewhat concerned about this by providing good
release notes, help files, and these forums thru which we can all
comment on the issues. but it also shows a need for a bit more quality-
assurance review for development procedures and product deployment and
testing.

g-mail has been very successful because it's a solid model of a known
application. but with app-engine style development where one can mix
and match components to form larger workflows - all of the components
need to work together on the same page or session, plus multiple
instances of the same - this requires a more sensible and well
documented approach to authentication and access control at a session
and component level, to say nothing about how URLs are
constructed...

in short:

accounts have rights in accessing and implementing components and
components have capabilities for accounts to access - thats it - all
of it should be browsable and configurable, including the standard
assumptions in the pre-packaged applications such as spreadsheets,
docs, calendars, etc -- a "googleMyAdmin" similar to the php webtop
for MySql, or a directory browser/editor for LDAP servers ) -- maybe
this exists already somewhere in the google API reference or is
something someone is working on.. ?



On May 26, 12:38 am, Vladimir Solomenchuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In step 6, when the ID provider passes the SAML response back to the
> > web application, are you grabbing the SAML response and making a
> > cookie out of that?  I'm thinking if you could do that then you could
> > introduce the data in that cookie into the bespoke apps(widgets) in
> > the site to authenticate with google.
>
> I have no access to user data (because different domains)
> Looks like every service has its own authentication.For example, you
> have to visit calendar page for work with calendar widget and google
> talk page for google talk. Even on ig page calendar widget will not
> work without visiting calendar page.
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