Ok, i get u, Ben. U r not permitted to change own (am I right?) decisions. Fine. Not a problem. I wanted at first work with Google, but as i see **3 weeks*** of silence is a reason to be rejected. (Please look on my last Screenshot).
Have Google some recommendations as for min/max time-deviation for issue-resolving? :) Have a developer rights to be ill or got for more then 3 week to vacation? Nice rules, especially in case when Google keep rights to modify the rules anytime it is possible. Great, that Google has so objective "keeper" :-\ PS Nothing personal! Just I please you answer on all my questions. It will be useful for further project-driving. Kindest regards, VasIIlIj Pupkin On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Ben Collins-Sussman <[email protected]>wrote: > Sorry, but having a project name on Google Code is a privilege, not a > permanent squatter's right. If you don't use it, and don't respond, > then it gets given to someone who will definitely use it. I agree > that in this case it was unfortunate that things didn't go well for > you... which is why you should see if you can work something out with > the t-mate folks. > > The FAQ talks about this situation pretty clearly, and we've done this > many, many times before: > (http://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/FAQ) > > "What should I do if I wish to take over a project that appears > abandoned by its owners? > > In these cases we take a look at the project and ask ourselves some > questions: > > How long has the project lay fallow? If less than 6 months, don't be > optimistic about being assigned ownership of the project. > Is there something "fishy" about the circumstances of the request? > People squat project names much as they do DNS names. > Is there code in that project? If so, it is much less likely that we > will reassign ownership of that project to you except for the purpose > of continuing development of that code. > Is the project scheduled for deletion? If so, we'll likely just give it to > you. > Is the project you wish to take over a spam trap or hosting malware or > simply not open source? > Have you made an effort in good faith to contact the current owners? > What, if anything, did they have to say in reply? > Has one of the original developers died or otherwise dropped off the > grid in some fashion that you can describe to us? > Have you hosted malware, spam or non-open source content on Project > Hosting before? If so, don't be optimistic that we'll cooperate. > Once you have considered these items and if you still wish to attempt > to take ownership of a project or its name, please email us at > [email protected] and let us know about it (include > a description of how and when you attempted to contact the project's > current owners). We usually bring these issues to resolution in a > couple days." > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 7:09 PM, vasja pupkin > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Ben. Can you answer, am i right on the next situation: > > - I own the room, and i go to vacation for 2-3 weeks. > > - Somebody comes to me and try to open the door. > > - you are the keyskeeper > > - after ___A__ visit he comes to you and told that "nobody home" > > ... > > Will you give him the keys!? > > The same is with subj. > > > > Again - the issue was only 3 weeks ago. Before this i register the place > for > > this. > > I was out from Internet for 2-3 weeks, and in additionally i prepared the > > first "commitable" version. > > Today i was finish my "first step", but as u know... > > > > ...so nice story for Blog. Thanks for advice! :))) > > Can i use your Email as reference? > > > > PS > > Nobody have to answer for "Do u need it? Fine, than its mine! ", isnt it? > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Ben Collins-Sussman <[email protected] > > > > wrote: > >> > >> The reason it got reassigned wasn't because is was devoid of content > >> for 4 months. There's no official policy on that. > >> > >> It got reassigned because the people who wanted it *tried to contact > >> you* and couldn't get an answer. It's completely reasonable to assume > >> that if someone doesn't reply, and there's no content, that the > >> project must be abandoned. > >> > >> At this point, the best thing to do is create a different project > >> name, or try to combine your work with the t-mate people's work... I'm > >> suret they'd love people to contribute to their very large effort, > >> rather than create duplicate software. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 6:03 PM, vasja pupkin > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Hi Ben, thanks a lot for your answer! As you can see below the project > >> > was > >> > registered at > >> > "23 of Sempteber 2010". Till today it is less then 6 Monthes, isn't > it? > >> > Issue was creted only two weeks ago ! ( Jan 25, 2011 ). Today is > >> > 15.Feb.2011. Hmm... > >> > > >> > So additionally I was involved in another projects, and commit for my > >> > hg4j > >> > project was paused, and I has no way to found it in my current > intensive > >> > development-process. Is it a reason to reassign the owner? > >> > > >> > At least i expected some confirmation. > >> > > >> > Could u point me to rules, where 6 monthes inactivity is a reason for > >> > reject > >> > the project? > >> > My view for this project is very similar, ang goes to the same > >> > ditrection > >> > with Mercurial for Java-platform. But i hope it should be not the > matter > >> > of > >> > discussion for this timepoint. > >> > The main question - how it can be!? Should i immediately move all my > >> > projects without commits in the last weeks to anothe project/hosting. > >> > Till > >> > today i was pretty happy with GoogleCode, but.... > >> > ...now i am really frustrating. > >> > Have you possibility to reassign it back? > >> > Please check the attachen Screenshot for detais. > >> > > >> > Kindest regards, > >> > Vasja :) > >> > > >> > > >> > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Ben Collins-Sussman > >> > <[email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Vasja, see the thread below. There was no activity in the project > for > >> >> 6 months, no code. There were multiple attempts made to contact you, > >> >> and no reply. So the project was turned over to t-mate. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> >> From: Nathaniel Manista <[email protected]> > >> >> Date: Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:59 PM > >> >> Subject: Re: Hg4J project on Google Code. > >> >> To: Alexander Kitaev <[email protected]> > >> >> Cc: [email protected] > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Alexander Kitaev <[email protected]> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > I'm an owner and CEO of a small software development company TMate > >> >> > Software (htttp://svnkit.com/). We're interested in taking > ownership > >> >> > over the Hg4J project which is currently hosted on the Google Code > >> >> > Hosting. We're actively working on an Open Source Hg4J library (see > >> >> > project web site at http://hg4j.com/ and project source code in > >> >> > mercurial repository at http://hg.hg4j.com/hg4j/). > >> >> > > >> >> > About us: > >> >> > > >> >> > - TMate Software is known for its SVNKit library (Java version of > >> >> > Subversion) and SQLJet (Java version of SQLite). > >> >> > - We host SQLJet at Google Code. > >> >> > - We own hg4j.com domain name. > >> >> > - Hg4J is an Open Source project. > >> >> > - We use Google Apps to manage hg4j emails and hg4j-users mailing > >> >> > list. > >> >> > > >> >> > About Hg4J at Google code: > >> >> > > >> >> > - Project was started on 23 of Sempteber 2010 > >> >> > - There is no source code (single commit with repository > structure), > >> >> > no wiki, no issues (except for the one I've submitted). > >> >> > > >> >> > We tried to contact hg4j owner in two ways: > >> >> > > >> >> > 1. We've sent him an email to [email protected] and > did > >> >> > not receive any reply. > >> >> > 2. We've submitted an issue to the project page: > >> >> > http://code.google.com/p/hg4j/issues/detail?id=1 and received no > >> >> > reply. > >> >> > > >> >> > We plan to use hg4j at Google Code to host wiki and issues tracker > >> >> > for > >> >> > Hg4J project, plus to keep a clone of project's Mercurial > repository. > >> >> > >> >> Done. Thank you for your very detailed request. > >> >> -Nathaniel > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> >> Groups "Project Hosting on Google Code" group. > >> >> To post to this group, send email to > >> >> [email protected]. > >> >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> >> [email protected]. > >> >> For more options, visit this group at > >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-code-hosting?hl=en. > >> > > >> > > > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Project Hosting on Google Code" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-code-hosting?hl=en.
