Hello, I am (or was) also a member of this project
2012/3/5 Nathaniel Manista <[email protected]> > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 10:15 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I am the founder of the google open source project "wiiflow" and my task >> there has been to recruit members, be a link between teams as members left >> and others joined and provide guidance to the project. >> >> Since quite some time we had a team of two developers who wrote the most >> additions to the project. One of them, being active for over a year, was >> the last one to receive the ownership status. >> Most recently, he was gone for a period of 5 months and the project had >> been in a semi-broken state for a while before that. Since the lead >> developer was also inactive, the project stalled. >> >> A regular member of our IRC channel joined together with a returning >> member of the project and other members of our IRC channel and they resumed >> work together. They recently committed their work and we were ready to >> release a stable version after the team of testers approved it. >> At this point, the most recently added owner returned and deleted >> everyone from the project including myself, without any prior discussion at >> all. He then agreed to work with the new team, only to change his mind >> shortly afterwards to remove everyone again and delete the revision that >> was recently committed by the new team. Again, without any prior discussion. >> >> Besides the fact that I find it strange that the founder can be removed >> from a google code project, we now also have the problem of being left >> without access to the administration pages of our project. >> > > This is a feature and not something we've ever considered changing. It's > not at all unusual for founders to pass management of a project on to > someone else. > This "feature" is something I didn't know either and something I don't fully understand. Well, I can understand a feature for a founder to pass over the project to someone else when a founder decides to do this or even a feature that co-owners can remove a founder or co-owner when he or she is inactive for a certain period and doesn't react in a certain amount of time, but I also find it strange that co-owners can remove each other and even founders without a prior notice. > > Said member now added back members at my request but is effectively taking >> the project hostage since he refused to give back owner rights to anyone, >> and nobody has seen the sources he's working on. >> >> Can you please revert this change? Can you give us the access to our >> project back? >> > > Sorry, but we can't. While you're describing very poor behavior, you > haven't described any action by this individual that violates our Terms of > Service. > > Also could you please elaborate a bit on the usage of the roles to prevent >> this? There doesn't seem to be any role to fill the gap between full Owner >> to Contributor. >> > > There is a "Committer" role between Owner and Contributor. From your > description of events it sounds like the current project owner doesn't want > anyone else having commit access? > > This has always been a community project, with more people involved than >> just the people listed on google code. This is not just my own request but >> the request of our whole little community. >> > > I'm sorry that you're having the disagreements that you are having, but it > sounds like it might be time for a fork. > Project management by a committee of mutually trusting individuals (and > not being subject to one owner kicking everyone else out) is something that > all successful projects must find at some point; I highly recommend Karl > Fogel's *Producing Open Source Software* <http://producingoss.com/> for > everyone in your position. > Good luck, > -Nathaniel > Thank you for your time, Ed -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Project Hosting on Google Code" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-code-hosting?hl=en.
