On 17 May 2010 17:57, Davi Costa <[email protected]> wrote: > "Seriously; worrying about what others have done is a pointless exercise." > > I totally disagree, studying how the best coders do will without any doubt > help you to became a better coder. > > > Studying the code: yes. That is going to help. But suggesting that he couldn't have typed and debugged the code in 10 mins sounds more like an accusation.
> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Abizern <[email protected]> wrote: > >> He probably did. So what? There's no restriction on when you write the >> code, as long as you upload it as part of the solution. >> >> Most of it is the Bignum struct, which is the sort of thing one is likely >> to have hanging around ready to use. >> >> Seriously; worrying about what others have done is a pointless exercise. >> >> >> On 17 May 2010 15:56, mkstayalive <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Now an interesting question... Take a look at neal.wu's code for problem >>> B: "Fair Warning", which I have attached to this mail. It is so long that >>> you can't type, debug and verify the output for this program in 10 minutes - >>> this was the time taken by neal.wu. Now how do you explain this? Did he copy >>> a part of the source from a header file? >>> >>> >>> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:40 PM, Dhruva Sagar <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> good point >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 17:39, Felipe Sodré Silva <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Of course, but Paul's point is that once you have an algorithm that is >>>>> fast enough for running under 4 minutes, it's not worth wasting time >>>>> trying >>>>> to figure out a faster one. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Dhruva Sagar >>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Well the more efficient your algorithm, the faster you'll get the >>>>>> output and the faster you'll submit it. >>>>>> So yes it matters >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 17:20, Manish kumar Singh < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you for that wonderful explanation! But may I know whether or >>>>>>> not the efficiency of the algorithm is also a deciding factor?? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Paul Smith <[email protected] >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> neal.wu solved 1-small after 6 minutes and 12 seconds, 1-large after >>>>>>>> 6 minutes and 48 seconds. 2-small after 15 minutes and 19 seconds, >>>>>>>> 2-large >>>>>>>> after 16 minutes and 12 seconds, 3-small after 27 minutes and 5 >>>>>>>> seconds, >>>>>>>> getting it wrong once, and 3-large after 27 minutes and 30 seconds. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As he was completely finished in 27 minutes and 30 seconds, with 1 >>>>>>>> wrong attempt at a small input which costs him 4 minutes, his total >>>>>>>> score is >>>>>>>> 99 points, and his penalty time is 31 minutes and 30 seconds. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nobody scored 99 points in less than 31 minutes and 30 seconds, so >>>>>>>> neal is the "winner" of the qualification round. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Penalty time is more important in future rounds if your score is >>>>>>>> near that required for 1000th place, and indeed penalty time may >>>>>>>> decide the >>>>>>>> winner in the finals in the case of a tie. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Paul Smith >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Manish kumar Singh < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm new to code-jam and I'm excited to participate in the >>>>>>>>> next year. Can any one let me know how is the rank decided when the >>>>>>>>> marks >>>>>>>>> are the same. Also how much does efficiency matter? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> One last question.. in the scores listed below, what does the time >>>>>>>>> 6:12, 31:30, etc signify? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Rank ContestantScore Penalty 10pt23pt 10pt23pt 10pt23pt Problem >>>>>>>>> statistics 4:55 >>>>>>>>> 9739/11495 correct5:40 >>>>>>>>> 8169/9676 correct 15:19 >>>>>>>>> 3370/4417 correct16:12 >>>>>>>>> 2499/3041 correct 14:19 >>>>>>>>> 8273/8744 correct22:22 >>>>>>>>> 3108/7844 correct 1 >>>>>>>>> [image: United States] neal.wu 99 31:30 6:12 >>>>>>>>> 6:48 >>>>>>>>> 15:19 >>>>>>>>> 16:12 >>>>>>>>> 27:05 >>>>>>>>> 1 wrong try 27:30 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Manish >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "google-codejam" group. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]<google-code%[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/google-code?hl=en. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "google-codejam" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]<google-code%[email protected]> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/google-code?hl=en. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "google-codejam" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected]<google-code%[email protected]> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/google-code?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks & Regards, >>>>>> Dhruva Sagar. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "google-codejam" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]<google-code%[email protected]> >>>>>> . >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/google-code?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "google-codejam" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]<google-code%[email protected]> >>>>> . >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/google-code?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Thanks & Regards, >>>> Dhruva Sagar. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "google-codejam" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]<google-code%[email protected]> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/google-code?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "google-codejam" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]<google-code%[email protected]> >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/google-code?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Abizer >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "google-codejam" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<google-code%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-code?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "google-codejam" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<google-code%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-code?hl=en. > -- Abizer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "google-codejam" group. 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