> Makes a lot of sense. The thing which participant must understand and not > be offended is that many of situations you described are indistinguishable > from one another. Person who said that his source was stolen and who > participated in a good faith can not be distinguished from person who did > it intentionally. Same with person who "forgot to attach source, but here > it is, I can send it now" - cannot be distinguished from person who used > his friend code to come up with output file and then created some > supporting code after the competition. > So some people's feeling can be hurt, because they didn't really try to > cheat and didn't do anything intentionally wrong. But they must understand > that nobody can provide a proof for that and that's why rules are as strict > as they are. >
That's pretty much the problem. And the rules say that you can't share your code, even by accident. That's why I'm so happy with this year's changes: fewer bruised feelings, and less frustration, due to accidents. I agree with your comment that if to get 35 points in Qualifiers you need > to cheat, then 100% you shouldn't try doing it at all. That's actually not what I meant to say: what I meant was that if you need to break the rules to pass through the Qualifiers, it isn't going to have a real effect on other contestants, because you aren't going to place in the top 1000 in Round 1X; so we don't really need to care. On a personal level, as far as I'm concerned if you want to show up to the qualification round and break those rules just to have fun, I don't mind. It's when you do that in a later round, and prevent someone else from advancing, that I personally have a problem. People reminded about rules, code of conducts, (they even did ten > commandments) right before the activity are much less likely to cheat. > Maybe this is one of the idea you should look into - instead of showing > blank screen for 2 hours before competition, put there summary of > participation rules in regards to cheating, with tickmark at the bottom. > That's a fantastic idea! We'll definitely think about whether we can do that in a friendly way. I will be doing it with timer on my own. I would really option for ability > to still participate in the round in a "Shadow mode" meaning all as usual, > but not being included in rankings. So if you get to this at some point - > that would be nice. > That would be pretty cool, but unfortunately it has to be prioritized against other things (like making cool problems, and sending emails to the right people). You should apply to Google, then make it happen! :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Code Jam" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
