I have most of teh same problems, and my solution is to stick to .NET
server side,
use .NET client library and ue a good .NET host (DiscountASP.net)
I wonder how easy it was for you to move the server side to Python.



On Nov 7, 5:19 pm, Neo42 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Revisiting this again.   The free classic asp .net host I am using is
> too limited, and it goes down too often.  And, I didn't have a good
> way to test my code locally/offline.  So, the project stalled out for
> a bit.
>
> Then I found out about google's app engine.  500 mb site, lots of
> bandwidth, free, awesome, allows google sign-ins, and has server side
> database style storage.  It uses python as the server side scripting,
> but I figured, hey, it's good enough for google.  It should be good
> enough for me.  They use it for their apps, such as google maps and
> such.  So I thought I'd try it.  It's remarkably easy to get into.
> The helloworld tutorial is easy.  Also, YOU CAN CREATE A FACEBOOK
> APPLICATION with it!  This guy has proven it here on his blog.
>
> http://dollarmani-facebook.blogspot.com/2008/09/facebook-applications...
>
> But even if I don't integrate my app into facebook, I can instead
> allow sign-ins with google accounts.
>
> So why don't I just use a google site creator?  It's really because I
> need server side database style storage.  That's the main thing.  Sign-
> ins are a good bonus.  Server side scripting is good.  Being able to
> send emails from the site will be handy (I'm pretty sure it can do
> this).
>
> Anyhow.  That's my solution now.  I have silverlight working on the
> python site now.  I had to make a change to allow xaml mime types and
> also had to make sure to use lower case/consistent for the file names.
>
> On Sep 11, 4:09 pm, Neo42 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Thank you.
>
> > I learned more today...
>
> > Opensocial can access google data.  :)
>
> > Check out this 
> > blog:http://opensocialapis.blogspot.com/2008/09/opensocial-now-with-more-g...
>
> > On Sep 11, 12:40 pm, "Jochen Hartmann (Google)"
>
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > That sounds great. Good luck with your endeavors!
> > > - J
>
> > > On Sep 10, 4:44 pm,Neo42<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Ok.  I created a site using that free asp (classic) webhost to pull
> > > > data from an internal access database that I control on there.  The
> > > > asp runs sql commands and returns back data in whatever format I
> > > > want.  My favorite so far is to return the data in the form of a
> > > > javascript file containing a JavaScript Linq array that I can use
> > > > JSLinq to query against.  I then use the javascript in silverlight to
> > > > import additional javascript and point at the asp page as the "js"
> > > > file.  This works awesomely and quickly.  Really is a very interesting
> > > > solution.  I don't know if I can integrate it to facebook, but that's
> > > > not entirely necessary.
>
> > > > But today I discovered Google Orkut and Google OpenSocial.  This is
> > > > what facebook should be or should have at least.  A free way to host
> > > > your own applications!  So, I will probably continue programming my
> > > > project the way I have been, but I will definitely check out
> > > > OpenSocial and Orkut.
>
> > > > -Neo42
>
> > > > On Sep 2, 3:02 pm,Neo42<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Unfortunately, httpwebrequest from google gears requires it to be from
> > > > > the same context.  :(
>
> > > > > So.  Even if I host the page using google pages and have it connect to
> > > > > a google spreadsheet atom feed, the domain isn't close enough to
> > > > > match.  Spreadsheet.google.com  doesn't match pages.google.com.
>
> > > > > All I want is a free online/web database that I can access
> > > > > programatically.  Doesn't this exist somewhere?
>
> > > > > Silverlightis supposed to support cross-domain but it just gives me a
> > > > > security error.
>
> > > > > Does anyone know if I can host a simple web service on classic asp?  I
> > > > > am using a free classic asp host with mysql as the backend.  I could
> > > > > potentially create something there to handle the online database
> > > > > functionality.
>
> > > > > On Sep 2, 1:20 pm,Neo42<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > I get a security error when it tries to do the HTTPwebrequest, no
> > > > > > matter what I do.  VB or C#.
>
> > > > > > So I think I might try using google gears, and possibly even the
> > > > > > chrome browser, to accomplish what I'm trying to do.  I wonder if 
> > > > > > 1) I
> > > > > > can use gears withsilverlightand vice versa, and 2) if chrome will
> > > > > > supportsilverlightand 3) will chrome rock so much thatsilverlight
> > > > > > won't be necessary?
>
> > > > > > Gears supports http requests, local databases, and will run very 
> > > > > > fast
> > > > > > in chrome.  Could be all I need.
>
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > -Neo
>
> > > > > > On Sep 2, 5:51 am,Neo42<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > I found a tutorial on syndicationFeed.  It lets you at least 
> > > > > > > retrieve
> > > > > > > from atom feeds.  I think it might also let you send data.  I 
> > > > > > > guess it
> > > > > > > depends on security settings at google spreadsheets.  I couldn't 
> > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > it to work in VB, but I will try c# next.
>
> > > > > > >http://www.silverlight.net/Quickstarts/Remote/ed86e719-0da0-49e1-a9e1...
>
> > > > > > > On Aug 29, 5:56 pm, "Jochen Hartmann (Google)"
>
> > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi,
>
> > > > > > > > The link below points to the .NET client library that we have
> > > > > > > > developed:
>
> > > > > > > >http://code.google.com/p/google-gdata/
>
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > - jochen
>
> > > > > > > > On Aug 29, 3:49 am,Neo42<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > I'd like to host all this on google pages, so that rules out 
> > > > > > > > > creating
> > > > > > > > > server side code I think.  Is there a direct way to go from
> > > > > > > > >silverlightto the atom feeds to retrieve and update?  I prefer 
> > > > > > > > >to use
> > > > > > > > >silverlightbecause I know it more than java or flash.
>
> > > > > > > > > Though, I do have access to a free classic asp host, 
> > > > > > > > > brinkster.
> > > > > > > > > Perhaps I could use that to create the webservice?  That's 
> > > > > > > > > literally
> > > > > > > > > asp 1.0.  I don't think asp 1 can make webservices.
>
> > > > > > > > > Can you send me the link to the .net sdk you speak of?  Is 
> > > > > > > > > that a
> > > > > > > > > google sdk you're referring to?
>
> > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > -Neo42
>
> > > > > > > > > On Aug 29, 4:59 am, Frank Mantek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > If you put a proxy service inbetween that feeds 
> > > > > > > > > > yoursilverlightpage,  
> > > > > > > > > > you can, honestly, do anything you want.
>
> > > > > > > > > > You just have to do a lot yourself. Your webservice should 
> > > > > > > > > > probably  
> > > > > > > > > > use AuthSub (see the youtube sample app in the .NET SDK) to 
> > > > > > > > > > talk to  
> > > > > > > > > > the google service and then represent the data and 
> > > > > > > > > > operations in any  
> > > > > > > > > > format you like to yoursilverlightpage.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Most certainly possible and not a bad way to go, if you 
> > > > > > > > > > want  
> > > > > > > > > >Silverlightas your end user experience.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Frank Mantek
> > > > > > > > > > Google
> > > > > > > > > > On Aug 28, 2008, at 9:33 PM,Neo42wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Btw, the link I put in there is the closest thing I have 
> > > > > > > > > > > found on the
> > > > > > > > > > > web on this subject.
>
> > > > > > > > > > >http://blogs.msdn.com/dthorpe/archive/2007/05/30/a-cross-domain-silve...
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 28, 3:29 pm,Neo42<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >> Is it possible (using a web service maybe) to create 
> > > > > > > > > > >> asilverlight
> > > > > > > > > > >> (xaml, html, js) page that can update/retreive a record 
> > > > > > > > > > >> on a google
> > > > > > > > > > >> spreadsheet?  I am not concerned about the security 
> > > > > > > > > > >> ramifications
> > > > > > > > > > >> yet.  I just want to know if it can be done.
>
> > > > > > > > > > >>http://blogs.msdn.com/dthorpe/archive/2007/05/30/a-cross-domain-
> > > > > > > > > > >> silve...
>
> > > > > > > > > > >> I am thinking about using google spreadsheets as an 
> > > > > > > > > > >> online database
> > > > > > > > > > >> withsilverlightas the gui/interface for a turn based 
> > > > > > > > > > >> multiplayer
> > > > > > > > > > >> game.
>
> > > > > > > > > > >> Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > >> -Neo- Hide quoted text -
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